Bob Dylan

[ramble on rose]

There is a literautre professor whohas been nominating Dylan every year since 1996 forthe Noble prize in literature.While the winner of the noble prize has already been given, I found this article interesting and was wondering what some of you think. http://entertainment.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=169849 The article basically goes into the debate of wether or not music lyrics should be considered literature, and if Dylan deserves to receive this honor. I don't know how many of you are Dylan fans, but it is my opinion that he is one of the greatest songwriter/poets of our time and definatlly deserves this honor. It does't mean that all songwriting is literature, I think we can all tell the differance, but there is no mistaking ture poetry. So check it out and tell me what you think. One Love! Edited by: ramble on rose

[B-Love]

Lyrics are literature, they are poetry, and they send a powerful message that should never be overlooked...

[christeebob]

I agree. Dylan is the MAN!

[ramble on rose]

He is the man! No matter how many times I listen to him he always moves me.

[pdalov]

dylan is one of my all time favorites. before g love jack and donovan there was dylan. he is the god of music.


pdalov

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Ramble I read that article a while ago, or maybe it was on NPR. But it so true Dylan is a poet!

[ramble on rose]

Yeah man. I mean it really gets no better then him. I love alot of music, but he is more than a musician, he is a poet in the truest sense.A few years back I saw him with Paul simon and it was AWSOME!!! I am so glad I got the chance. I mean so many people cover his music, because they know whats up. I even have a bob marley album where he covers "like a rolling stone", even mr. marley knew, dylan is the man!!!

[ragmop]

I have to,once again, say right on ramble! Bobby Z is definitely, and without question, the ultimate poet. I consider him a poet who just happens to have vast musical talent--a rare combination. I am looking forward to jumping into his new bio "Chronicles" over the holidays. Peace.

[ramble on rose]

that is definatly on my xmas list!

[ragmop]

Too weird--I put it on my christmas wish list too. (You know what they say, "greatminds . . . .") Gots big smiles here, cuz my secret cringle already let it slip thatthose pages are already inher bag.

[G'sLuva]

Did anyone check out the top 500 songs list inRolling Stone? It lists "Like a Rolling Stone" as #1-I couldn't agree more.


If you take the time to read through the list-and I had the time on a flight a week ago-then you will find some AWESOME stories about each song. I particulary found the "What's Going On" story about Marvin Gaye intriguing and quite sad.

[chrissy]

Yeah man. I mean it really gets no better then him. I love alot of music, but he is more than a musician, he is a poet in the truest sense.A few years back I saw him with Paul simon and it was AWSOME!!! I am so glad I got the chance. I mean so many people cover his music, because they know whats up. I even have a bob marley album where he covers "like a rolling stone", even mr. marley knew, dylan is the man!!!





I saw them together too, it WAS awesome. I saw him about a year before that with Van Morrison too, I'm sure it rocked, but it's a pretty foggy memory. Man, I wish I'd gone to more shows sober.

[ramble on rose]

Too weird--I put it on my christmas wish list too. (You know what they say, "greatminds . . . .") Gots big smiles here, cuz my secret Kringle already let it slip thatthose pages are already inher bag.


well ragmop we seem to defiantly be on the same wave my friend! hopefully my Kringlewill be putting that under the tree for me, if he knows whats good for him!


chrissy i love van Morrison, wish I could have seen him, I just feel blessed to get a chance to see Dylan ya know. As for seeing more shows sober, I always start that way, but for some reason by the end of the night my husband is a permanent leaning post.Edited by: ramble on rose

[ramble on rose]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/02/60minutes/main6587 (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/02/60minutes/main658799.shtml) 99.shtml


bob dylan is going to be on 60 minutes sunday, 7pm. check it out.

[G'sLuva]

Thanks RoR!smileys/smiley27.gif

[ragmop]

I'm like ramble. I like to start every show stone cold sober and fog free. Somehow, by the end, it'sa different story . . .

[ragmop]

Did anyone check out the top 500 songs list inRolling Stone? It lists "Like a Rolling Stone" as #1-I couldn't agree more.


If you take the time to read through the list-and I had the time on a flight a week ago-then you will find some AWESOME stories about each song. I particulary found the "What's Going On" story about Marvin Gaye intriguing and quite sad.








second that. in year's past, at time RShad put "Satisfaction" as No. 1. altho, i always like to see my boyz take the crown, they simply can't hold a candle to bobby z. my boyz sold out to pop music a long time ago. that's somethin' bobby never did

[Monica*]

hmm.. I will def. check that out. I've been soo busy lately that i don't think I have picked up a magazine in a month or two!

[ramble on rose]

OK, did anyone else get a chance to see it? I did, and let me just say, the Dylan segment was not long enough. It did seem that Dylan did not really even want to be there, so I am grateful for any amount of interview time. They talked alot about his status in life, "legend, profit" things of that nature, which he does not see himself as. He is just as I imagined he would be, and I idolize him all the more now. I thought it was great, and they took alot of quotes from the book that are getting me quite excited about reading it. So hope some of you got a chance to check it out.

[kelli420]

lyrics are literature...i agree dylan is one of the best...so was jim morrison..rip

[ragmop]

Missed dylan on SM (workin'). Read articleabout interview. Soundedjust like hisself--downplayed his talent, impact of his poetry and music on culture and his obvious icon status. Alotoftoday's"entertainers" couldlearn a thing or twofrom this man, the least of which is some friggin' modesty. (IMHO)

[ramble on rose]

You got that right ragmop, I was cooking dinner last night thinking more about the interview, and they touched on dylan's dislike for the media, and watching the interview I understood why. While he quoted the book a bit they didnt really talk about it much. He didnt really ask questions about dylan, he mostly asked him what he thought about what others think about him. It just wasnt long enough to make it what they could have. But it was cool to see, sorry you missed it. Edited by: ramble on rose

[ragmop]

i just love that man, his art, his music, his attitude. It'll be a sad day when he goes . . .

[ramble on rose]

it will be a sad day indeed, lets hope it doesn't happen for a while.

[Monica*]

Love the new signature rose!!

[ramble on rose]

Thanks darling all the dylan talk inspired me to change it, and listen to more of his albums. My family is getting sick of it I think. I put one in every evening while I cook.

[ragmop]

Tangled up in stew?

[ramble on rose]

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[ragmop]

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That pun was too easy--I just had to though. Peace . .

[ramble on rose]

it's cool. It made me smile and laugh a bit, which I always need.

[ramble on rose]

Always gotta share the Dylan info I find..One Love..


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6826910/Edited by: ramble on rose

[ragmop]

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[ramble on rose]

I am loving it! I must admit I am still on the first half of the book it is hard with my little one to get deep into it. He is so inspirational, after reading a bit I pick up the pen and pad and try to pour the thoughts outta my head. I love that man!

[ragmop]

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[ragmop]

Just finished "Chronicles, Vol 1". Awesome book. First and last thirds of the book give you a glimpse into the influencesthat shaped his body of work. They also painta vivid picture of NYC's folk scene in the early 1960s. Middle third chronicles his New Orleans recording sessions for "Oh Mercy" in 1989.


It is a must read for any fan.


Peace . . .

[ramble on rose]

I cannot believe you finished the book already, i have to get on it. I too am loving it, as you all know I love bobby d. So here is another article I found that includes him, enjoy.


http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6871612/

[B-Love]

I finished the book within One week, I loved it. The first part was Amazing, the second part I loved as well, I did Like the New Orleans sessions. Daniel Lanios is a genius, and I am a fan of Lanois, so I really dug hearing about those sessions..

[ragmop]

Thanks for sharing the article! I can't wait for Volume 2.

[ramble on rose]

ragmop, you still in cali? hope your trip treated you well.

[ragmop]

Man . . . I had to come home. There for just over 72 hours. Slept maybe 10 hours total. Found Santa Monica to be one niceplace. Loved it. Diverse as it comes. Met some great people. Sweet greens. People watched as much as I could. Weather was chilly, but it didn't matter.


My chef buddy in Chicago had arranged main floor dining at Beverly Hills Spaggo Friday night for my group. Mind blowing feast. Special chef menu,kitchen tour, the works. Very sweet. Saw my life (a la Courtney Cox) literally pass before my eyes. Damn.


Attendedsweetsushi seminarin Hermosa Beach. Very intense and hardcore Japanese chef taught it, but I took away so many kernels.


Definitely going back this summer. For now, some sleep . . .

[ramble on rose]

sounds like you had a blast, I love Santa Monica as well, one of my favorite places. Glad to have you back. Get some rest.

[ragmop]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz . . . .smileys/smiley12.gif

[ramble on rose]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6915205/


this is an article about Dylan's upcoming tour. you know me gotta spread the Dylan love. He rocks go see him live if you never have!!!!

[ragmop]

Ramble, my friend, thank you for the head's up. Got it covered.He is here in Chi-town for 5 freakin shows the first week in April! I am awaiting advance tix thru his "fanclub". You and Mr. Ramble up for a roadtrip?


Peace . . .

[ramble on rose]

i should have known you would already be on top of that. I wish I could road trip it up your way, but we are moving in late march easrly april, if i could though i would. Hopefully mr.z will make it round my way.

[ragmop]

Where you guys off to? Same area, or moving west?

[ramble on rose]

we are moving a bit more east actually. Newport news area, ever closer to the beach. it is a little over an hour from where we are now, closer to virginia beach, not to far, we just cannot sit still for too long. It feels like a never ending quest for happiness and comfort, at least on my part.

[ragmop]

Good luck with the move and the quest for happiness and comfort.Would not surprise me at all ifit lies near the beach! If you find it, let me know where it is at.


Peace . . .


"And I smiled to think God's greatness flowed around our incompleteness,
Round our restlessness, His rest . . ." E. B. Browning

[ramble on rose]

If it ever happens that I stumble upon it I will be sure to clue you in.

[ragmop]

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[ragmop]

Bobby Z:April 3!!


http://stores.musictoday.com/store/bands/381/product_medium/DYAP10.jpg

[ramble on rose]

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ragmop]

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


*snaps finger fivetimes*. . .

[NatasCub]

My dad has been a big Dylan fan for some time. Hell, my middle
name is Dylan. He took me to see him back when Dylan toured with
the Dead and Tom Petty. I saw Dylan again in the mid 90's.
My dad's birthday is coming up and I got 3 tickets for the April 13th
show at Shea's here in Buffalo so my wife and I can take him to the
show. 11th row! Shea's is an amazing venue too, nice
acoustics and a beautiful building. I can't wait to give him the
tickets for his b-day.

[ramble on rose]

awsome man, sounds like your dad is gonna love it. I wish Dylan was making his way down here. But it's all good. Did you catch Dylan with Paul Simon? My hubby took me to that show. Rocked! Have a good time.

[ragmop]

I wish Dylan was making his way down here.





Seems to be a recurrent theme for you with a number of artists. Why does Mid-East Coast (and ramble) get no love?

[ramble on rose]

It is quite a bummer that Virginia and ramble get no love, however it has come to my attention that the black crowes are stopping around my way!!!! They have a little tour going on check it out people


www.blackcrowes.com (http://www.blackcrowes.com)

[ragmop]

the black crowes are stopping around my way!!!!





Thanks for sharing. That tour is an entirely East/Mid&amp; South EastCoast tour (plus bonnaroo). Good for you!

[ragmop]

Just got back from Bobby Z's Chicago show. Great show. Philly artist Amos Lee was opening set. Very , very sharp act. Merle Haggard was second show. His voice is as clear as it was 25 years ago. And man, Dylan and his band were tight. Bobby rearranged a lot of his material, but it worked. The man is a genius.

[ramble on rose]

Awsome glad you had a blast my friend. I have been able to pick up the book a bit more during my idle time. I will finish it soon, I know I will. Needless to say I am sooooo envious of you. I have seen him so I can't complain.

[B-Love]

Rumour has it that Bob is going to play at Hunter S. Thompsons funeral were his ashes will be blasted out of a cannon just like Gonzo wanted...Now thats a send off, Bob playing, and you blasting out of a cannon..

[ramble on rose]

Yeah, I don't think it could get much better then that. Dylan and a cannon sending you off into the next world.

[ramble on rose]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8242198/


more dylan info, you know me.

[ramble on rose]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8388339/


get you dylan bootlegs at Starbucks.....Thank god there is one on every corner in every town.


Scorsese, Dylan, the big screen....could it get better, possibily, but thisis pretty sweeeeet.Edited by: ramble on rose

[ragmop]

big smile, ramble. big smile. smileys/smiley4.gif

[ramble on rose]

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8567211/


Dylan the movie, the soundtrack, the legend. We are ever closer ragmop, check it out. I cannot wait.

[BtheHustler]

Dylan -- A true musical classic.

[ragmop]

Damn, ramble, much praise to you for keeping me up on this stuff. I feel likeI have been noticeably absent from the phamily lately. Work is absolutely crazy-busy. Vacation toArkansas. Committments. Gotta score these new discs and r-r-r-e-e-e-l-l-l-a-a-a-x-x-x.


As for Bobby Z, I cannot wait for these releases. Altho I am an "old fart" according to PERRY, I am not old enuf (unfortunately) to have had the chance to see the manwhen he exploded (mid-to-late 60s). Thankfully he has rearranged and adapted many, many times in his career. The man is so multi-dimensional it is sickening.


I read a critic's review of his book "Chronicles" where the critic more or less said, "G.D. you, Bob Dylan!"--the critic had written 10 books in his career and he felt that their combined qualities didn'tmeasure up to Bobby's first and only. It's not enough that he is a great poet, songwriter, composer, performer and artist--now he decides to pick up writing and he excels at that as well. Legend in every sense.


Thanks for listening y'all. Peace. . .

[ramble on rose]

Iknew posting about bobby z. would pull you on to the board.smileys/smiley2.gif I've missed you friend. Glad to hear all is well, though you sound like you've had a full plate.


I looking forward to all the future Dylan releases, the movie is gonna rock. A critic giving a good review, amazing. Like you said rag there is nothing that man cannot do. You can always count on me for your up to the minute Dylan reports.One love.

[ragmop]

missed you as well, ramble. howz the mr. and your little angel? finally getting settled in?

[ramble on rose]

yeah things are well, we are just doing our thing and learning the area. Hoping the weather will hold out this weekend for some beach time. And you, how's the little ones?

[ragmop]

O-o-o-o-h-h-h-h, R-r-r-r-a-a-a-a-m-m-m-b-b-b-l-l-l-l-e-e-e-e!!! Look what I found:


http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000A0GP4K.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg


Badazz photo. IMHO. Later. Peace . . .

[ramble on rose]

sweeeeeeeeeeeeet! THat is so bad ass.I can't wait.


I have been frequenting the local starbucks keeping my eye out for the new records that are on the way out , looking forward to those too.

[ragmop]

Ramble:


Starbucks now has "Live at the Gaslight 1962" ($13.95)--just scored the disc. Listening to it now.


Didn't have enough $ on me to get the other disc from the documentary, but they are stocking now.


Cleared your calendar for 9/26-27/05 yet?

[ramble on rose]

let's see,do i have enough time to stop off at starbucks before work this am??? May have to make the time, that rocks I have been asking them everytime I go in with no luck. I am so excited. YEAH!!! As for the 26th I am prepared, everyone knows not to mess with momma when that comes on. Not that I even have to ask but how is the disc, kick ass right?!

[ragmop]

It's excellent. You will def. enjoy it.


Check outhis version of "Don't Think Twice, It's Alright". This was recorded about a year before the song appears on Free Wheelin, and he was obviously still working on thesong when this disc was recorded.Some of the lyrics are different, and you can hear him skip througha few parts b/c he still isn't sure what words fit best.

[ramble on rose]

awsome!!!!!!! I have yet to make my way over to starbucks, but the album will be mine, oh yes it will be mine.

[ragmop]

Get the F outta my way tonight and tomorrow night, y'all. I am not leaving my couch. Ramble, the front door's open--let yourselves in. I gotta a Bobby Z doll for baby ramble. I got the greens for the grown ups.Just have Mr. Ramble bring the Red Stripe.


Peace . . .

[Mr. Cleanface]

Just started hereat 9:00.


I was checking since 6:30...it was supposed to start at 7:30EST. Got it baby.

[ramble on rose]

just a qucik pop in to say I was having computer troubles, but my mister fixed me up while i was intranced in booby z. It was awsome, i loved the fact that the first preformance they showed was an electric set. rock on!!!!! part two tonite. ragmop you got the green i got the brew!!!!!!!smileys/smiley2.gif

[ragmop]

One cool brutha.

[Mr. Cleanface]

Gotta give it up to Marty too...



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Looking forward to part II.

[ramble on rose]

part two, part two!!!! So looking forward to it.

[ragmop]

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=bob+dylan/v=2/SID=w/TID=I049_75/l=IVS/SIG=123gp6ei7/EXP=1127954836/*-http%3A//www.netplugged.com/photos/bob_dylan2.jpg


as i said, one cool, cool brutha . . .


And many props to Marty S. The boy is nothing abouttraditional. As Ramble so aptly pointed out, how many filmmakers would start a documentary of Bobby Z with a clip of his electric debut in England? Only one. And it worked! Can't wait for the sequel tonight.

[ragmop]

A couple more, en hommage


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[Mr. Cleanface]

Nice!!!


I have a bigsubway print of thisin my office.


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[ramble on rose]

what a great film, I was so upset when it ended only because I wanted more. I was hoping they would go even further into career. I love dylans modest behavior. He has such a free spirit about him and never let anyone try to hold him down into a mold of what they wanted him to be.


I loved hearing about how all his fans got so pissed when he went electric on the second half of his shows and booed him, yet when he played like a rolling stone they all sang along. Good stuff. ragmop I hope you got a chance to catch the whole thing last nite. Mr. C love the poster.

[ragmop]

Saw both parts. Loved them. Itcaptured hisdrive, hisindependence and his determination to travel HIS path and no one else's. And I loved Joan Baez's insights (btw, one helluva sexy woman, IMO).


Going electric was a HUGE deal--not for him--but for his folk/acoustic fans, which I thought thefilm conveyed very well (actually almost centered around that). His committment to his music,in the face thatopposition only makes me admirethe man more. Very few artists have ever simply played for themselves, as a career. Very few.


I too wish the film had gone further into his career--it only covered 6 of his 44-year career. But footage of live Dylan would have been pretty sparse until the late 1970's and 1980's. Plus the later footage wouldn't fare as well when compared to his youthfullook, performances and voice.


Great couple of nite's TV watching though.

[Mr. Cleanface]

Yep, I think Scorscese needs to get to work on parts II andIII. That could easily go another 10 hours. And Joan Baez is sexy as hell! She looks damn good! (Easy Ragmop aka Old Man...smileys/smiley2.gif)
Bob doesn't come off as the easiest person in the world to talk to. Seems very judgemental and condesending, almost confrontational sometimes, like when he was challenging/yelling at the interviewer in the early footage. Talking to someone tonight about it, they asked if I had seen the movie "Don't Look Back." Have you guys seen this? They said he was a huge a-hole throughout the entire film.Sounds good, but I've never seen it anywhere.

Definitely a very confident, cocky, rough guy and definitely a peaceful person...but from what I've heard and seen, doesn't seem likea soft spoken or soft souled man. Badass/musical genius no doubt.

Whattya think Rag and Rose? True, myth, driven crazy by the media??? Thoughts....?

[ragmop]

My impression: Dylan is a poetfirst, who just happens to be atremendous musical talent as well.Like Dylan, most poets are independent-thinking loners who tend not to fully understand, or have time for, the triviality of the pop media culture. That, of course, creates conflict whenthe media is THE vehicle for your musical expression.


But if you think of himas a poet,to me it explains alot of his behavior. Imagine any poet (Thoreau, Sandburg, Emerson, etc.) in front of lights, cameras and microphones being asked questions by a media who 1) hasn't read your material, 2) doesn't comprehend the material, and 3) focuses on you as the poet and not the words you have expressed. Frustrating to say the least, when as a poet, your materialiseverything to you. Plus, he has always spoken ofhimself as a poet--never stopping his development or growth, not staying in one place too long, never being one- or two-, but multi-dimensional instead.


In his novel, Dylan made it very clear that he was interested in writing and performing his songs and developinghis sound. Others wanted to elevate(and pigeonhole) him into being thespokesperson for an entire generation and certain politicalmovements. The more they pushed him to be so, the more he pushedback. (Hence that speech he gave when getting thatliberty or freedom award).


And of course he is an asshole. Very few artistic people are not. Jim Morrison (another poet/musician)--asshole. Van Morrisson--asshole. But I don't think that he is one just to be one. I truly think that he is bored with a lot of things and people. Just my opinion.


Mr. C, read Chronicles. It is a great read (sorry, no pictures--I know that's important to you!) Seriously, though, it explains alot about him.Edited by: ragmop

[Mr. Cleanface]

Thanks Ragmop, nice response. Have you seen "Don't Look Back?" I heard there is another part in the film where Bob and John Lennon are in a limo, drinking and smoking pot and Dylan gets sick...smileys/smiley11.gif


And I do need to check out Chronicles, I've been meaning to. What, wait...no pictures. smileys/smiley7.gif Well, I guess I'll try, but it might be tough.

[ragmop]

Never saw "Don't Look Back." But now I'm interested. I haven't mentioned it, and Marty steered very far from it, but Bobby had his greenage issues. Did any of you catch his eyes at that one press conference? He was GONE. Plus, in some of the live performance footage, he was struggling to keep his eyes open.


That Marty skirted around that part of Bob's life is my small critique of the film.

[ramble on rose]

don't look back is certinly going to the top of the list. My opinion is basically the same as rag. Like I said earlier that is one of the things I admire about the man he is a free spirit. He lets noone hold him down or back, he does what he feels. He is an artist in a true sense of the word. Lived for his work for himself. He kept true to himself.


Being somewhat of a poet myself I know how personal it is when you do share that piece of you. I don't know if I feel hecame across as an asshole, while I watched the film and the interviews I really felt for him. Watching people ask insignifigant and pointless questions. I loved the way he responed to them, with a smartass remark or some off the wall answer, and I thought, shit I would do the same damn things to those cocks. They all wanted was him to be somebody other then bob dylan, and he wouldn't take that shit. So I guess he kinda was an asshole, but when it comes to the compromise of your art, the very soul of you, you can't back down.


Like whenJoan Baezsaid everyone would ask her where bob was when she went to protests and sit-ins, he never went he didn't want to be the leader of a generation. Another thing she had about him was that not only did he not want to do those things he would tell you he didn't want to. He didn't try to pretend he was up front and honest about his intention.


He did look so baked in that interview it was great, because so was I. Whar about when he was in the car where the girls tried to stow away with the luggage. Completely gone. nice.Wasn't long enough at all in my opinion. I could have watched it for hoursas well.Edited by: ramble on rose

[Mr. Cleanface]

Here's a link for ya Rag and Rose...I ordered mine...


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000035P7X/002 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000035P7X/002-5100301-1508828?v=glance) -5100301-1508828?v=glance

[ramble on rose]

very nice mr. c, thanks for the link.

[ragmop]

Hey, ramble and Mr. C: thanks for the exchange. I love bobby z and it is oh so refreshing to meet others who share that type of passion for the man and his art. There has never been, nor will there ever be another, IMO. It's a combination of respect, admiration, reverence and worship--hell, I admit it.


And for the record Mr. C, I give you tons of grief (some deservedly so, other times not-so-much), but I hope youknow I always respect your opinions and positions.


And Ramble, one word: wavelength.


Enough of this lovefest. I need to go back and be that crusty curmudgeon that you guys expect of everyone over 40. Peace to all, but especially you, Mr. C and Ramble . . . .


. . . and LSV smileys/smiley27.gif


. . . and greengirlie smileys/smiley27.gif


. . . and PERRY smileys/smiley8.gif


. . . and kelli420 smileys/smiley27.gif


. . . and ben04 smileys/smiley27.gif


. . . and sauce.baby smileys/smiley27.gif


. . . and monica* smileys/smiley27.gif(where is you, girl?)


. . . and all ya all smileys/smiley16.gif

[ramble on rose]

I agree it is so nice to talk about things I hold dear to me with others who veiw things similar to me. I do wish however I could conversate as well with words as you do ragmop. I'm right there with you my friend. Got nothin but love and respect for the lot of ya!!! one love.

[ragmop]

Scored "No DirectionHome" cd from the kids for my b-day. Basically the soundtrack to the documentary. Ramble, it is a must. Can't remember the last time a discgot this much play in my house, car, or office.


Too many favs to list off the dual disc, but the live version of "Ballad of a Thin Man" alone is reason alone to score the disc.

[ramble on rose]

ragmop happy belated birthday my libra friend. Sorry I missed it. Hope you had a well deserved wonderful day.


Speaking of Dylan movies, I was going through some boxes of vhs we have with the mister when what do I stumble upon but "Don't Look Back". I have had it the whole time and just never remembered. (burntsmileys/smiley5.gif) I have not sat down to it yet but I plan to very soon.

[ragmop]

Nothing like a serendipitous find. Put baby ramble to bed, grab a throw, spark, kick back and enjoy!

[ramble on rose]

have you seen this new book that is out? I noticed it recently at target and it is going to the top of my xmas list. Titled "The Bob Dylan Scrapbook 1956-1966" I thumbed through it at I am looking forward to getting it into my collection.


http://www.bobdylan.com/ndh.html#features or


http://www.sonymusicstore.com/store/catalog/MerchandiseDetai (http://www.sonymusicstore.com/store/catalog/MerchandiseDetails.jsp?selectionId=91197&amp;sms=ast-bobdylan) ls.jsp?selectionId=91197&amp;sms=ast-bobdylan


So many cool trinkets of info and replications of old flyers and things. Looks really cool. Hope I get it.Santa (mr. Ramble)smileys/smiley2.gif

[Mr.Ramble]

Santa can deliver ! Love ya Hon.

[ramble on rose]

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10100845/


ragmop, meet me in N.Y.!Edited by: ramble on rose

[ragmop]

ramble, you're killing me.


I broke open my piggy bank and I counted out $37.56. If we get there early, and nobody elsebids on it, I think we have a pretty good chance.


Since he wrote the poems as Bobby Zimmerman, I don't think anyone will realize who he really is.


smileys/smiley2.gif

[ramble on rose]

you make a good point ragmop. I am on the way to nyc, by the way is it wrong to swipe my daughters piggy? I mean you know I could look at this as a future investment for her. Right?smileys/smiley2.gif

[ragmop]

Hey, Ramble. Off to work early today? Hope the Norva show rocked, and Baby Ramble is getting caught up on her sleep. She's getting older, you know. She just can't party all night like when she was 2.

[the duke]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=73546


I'm sure you know the outcome, but I felt like contributing...I'm a dylan fan, not as big as you guys, but I love his stuff...


So check this out....

[ragmop]

...I'm a dylan fan, not as big as you guys, but I love his stuff...





Ramble, are we really that obvious with our obsession? smileys/smiley2.gif


Duke, thanks for contributing. Appreciate it.

[ramble on rose]

well, 6 pages of mostly us talking about bobby z., yeah, obsession might be the right word. smileys/smiley17.gifwe haven't quite reached stalker status yet. Yeah duke thanks for the link. So ragmop I don't think the piggy banks would have come in handy at that auction.


as for little r it took her the whole next day to recoop, she was up till one am saturday night. rock on.

[ragmop]

as for little r it took her the whole next day to recoop, she was up till one am saturday night. rock on.





rock on, baby r. you and mr. ramble as well.


later

[ragmop]

Ramble,yo check it:


The way I want to always remember Bobby Z:


http://www.dylanchords.com/pictures/1962_4thStapartment_gibson.jpg

[ramble on rose]

hell yeah, I love it.

[ramble on rose]

check this out.....this could be, hell is the going to be the best radio show ever....


http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10453887/

[ragmop]

March 06, I am bending to the ultimate power that is XM radio. It took ramble,her infinite wisdom and news scoop, and of course the one, the only, and the sacred Bobby Z.


(Sorry y'all, I readily admit my idolitric (word?)obsession with this man's work.)


Thank you, queen ramble.

[ramble on rose]

I may have to seriously consider this move as well my friend. Ragmop as always you flatter me.smileys/smiley9.gif


It's good to be the queen.Edited by: ramble on rose

[ramble on rose]

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11374032/


Bob Dylan jazz fest info. comin to you my loves. one love.

[ragmop]

muah, ramble. once again.

[ramble on rose]

smileys/smiley9.gifaww ragmop, nothin but love.

[ramble on rose]

MAy 24th is bob dylan's birthday. So spark him up some birthday wishes!!!!!


Happy Birthday Bob Dylan!!!!!!smileys/smiley8.gif


http://bobdylan.com/live/

[ragmop]

way to go ramble!

[RoBpicasso]

Bob who?

[ragmop]

Bob who?


. . . Zimmerman . . . aka Dylan . . .aka legend . . . aka genius . . . aka poet . . . aka folk innovator . . .aka one ofthe greatest influenceson20th century music . . .

[ramble on rose]

that was a joke right? if not please re-read the last 6 pages of this thread.

[ragmop]

that was a joke right? if not please re-read the last 6 pages of this thread.


word

[RoBpicasso]

No seriously, bob dylan? Isnt he dead? Ohhhhh, never mind u guys are talkin about Dylan from 90210...smileys/smiley2.gifEdited by: RoBpicasso

[ramble on rose]

thank goodness he is very much alive and jammin at 65!


90210 huh......(that is a secret love of mine, shhhh, don't tell some people round here think i'm kinda cool)smileys/smiley2.gif


check out this article


re: dylan's radio show:


http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=223965&amp;GT1= 7702 (http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=223965&amp;GT1=7702)Edited by: ramble on rose

[luke]

How good is the Freewheelin? I just listened to that for the first time in ages, its just total genuis I wish i had some good enough words in my vocabularly to describe it but I suppose i don't need to, people just need to hear it. Totally Timeless.

[ragmop]

i know what you are trying to say. i ain't got nonegooder words in my vocabulary to speak about the guy. his music is the bestest and funnest around. smileys/smiley2.gif

[ramble on rose]

http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=224133&amp;GT (http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=224133&amp;GT1=7701) 1=7701


info about an upcoming Dylan movie, due out sometime next year. It is interesting though I am not sure how I feel about it. What do you think? -ROR with your up to the minute Dylan news. one love.

[ramble on rose]

this isn't about dylan, but it is somewhat related since Woody Guthrie was one of his inspirations. enjoy....


http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13187737/

[ragmop]

Thanks ramble! Arlo G. actually rolled through this freakin little Illinois borrough last fall for a performance.


As every prolly knows, "City of New Orleans" references the train that runs to New Orleans. And theKankakee depot referenced in that song is no more than2 blocks from my office. So Arlo blew in by rail one day, spoke and performed at our community center.

[Mr. Cleanface]

Arlo and I share the same birthday.


BTW, I am sure Arlo blew many more'rails' besides the one by your office Rag...


smileys/smiley2.gif

[ramble on rose]

that is badass ragmop, i love arlo. mr. c you are a nut, i love it.

[luke]

has anyone seen renaldo and clara. old rare 3 part dylan film, really cool if a little bit pretentious in places but who cares its dylan! Good live stuff in it too.....

[ramble on rose]

never seen it but I will have to start a search.I can never passanything Dylan.

[luke]

its really worth a watch, can't exactly remember but dylan plays renaldo and another guy plays Dylan. If you can't find it i could somehow send it you. I think its quite rare.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078151/

Quite a reasonable summary....

[ramble on rose]

right on, thanks man. I will let you know how the search goes.

[ramble on rose]

New album coming out, yeah, rock on!!!! I did not see any place that I posted this on this thread so here it is...


http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12992670/

[ramble on rose]

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14245499/


this link is about pre-order for Dylan's new album, and if you do you get first crack at tickets for his fall tour. Should be sweeeeeet! Rock on!

[ramble on rose]

http://www.slate.com/id/2147487/?GT1=8483


more dylan for your fine asses!

[B-Love]

Bobby speaks his mind..LOL

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=entertainmentNews&storyid=2006-08-22T152139Z_01_N22476890_RTRUKOC_0_US-DYLAN.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

[luke]

heh classic dylan comments there

[ramble on rose]

:D right on B-love with the Dylan link. I couldn't agree with Dylan more for the most part, there is alot of crap out there. However there are some great bands with great tunes. Either way I know his record will kickass.

[B-Love]

:D right on B-love with the Dylan link. I couldn't agree with Dylan more for the most part, there is alot of crap out there. However there are some great bands with great tunes. Either way I know his record will kickass.

Rose he was not talking about Musicians or Songs, he was talking about the quality of the sound. The technology we use to record now a days, is atrocious. Not Music being made.

[ramble on rose]

right on B. man I am dorkin it up with my nonsense posts. I need to start paying more attention. I wish I could say that I felt strongly with him about that but if i don't dig the music all together I don't hear much else. But I will believe anything he says.

[ramble on rose]

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14503414/

another Dylan article for my lovelies.. need to redeem myself from the dorkiness....if it is possible. one love.

[34redsox34]

Bob Dylan just played at the Red Sox triple a team stadium.I think it's called Mc Coy stadium in pawtucket RI.I guess he is going to play at most of the minner league stadiums...

[luke]

Cool article, I really can't wait for Modern Times....well 3 days....guess i'll have too......

[ramble on rose]

http://www.slate.com/id/2148563/?nav=tap3&GT1=8592

this is a good article, I liked it. one love.

[ramble on rose]

Bob Dylan's album is #1!!!!!! Hell yeah! check it out. one love.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14706608/

[ramble on rose]

http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=233136&GT1=7702

and another, and another..

[the duke]

ok, so i have no idea if this has been posted the last couple of days, but our ARIA (our version of billboards I guess) charts says that Bob Dylan's album is #1....now THAT is cool...

[ramble on rose]

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14718977/


yes, yes, more bob dylan. one love.
a new musical based on his songs, "The Times They Are A-Changin'," debuts on Broadway this fall. Dylan on broadway, life is good.

[ramble on rose]

http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=235727&GT1=7702
check this out a childhood friend of Dylan found an old old tape of the two of them playing guotar and dylan singing. We are talking highschool. Now he is going to sell the tape. Ragmop, get your check book ready!

[ramble on rose]

I know what you all are thinking....ramble on rose has not posted about Mr. Z in a while and I know you all miss it so. Here you go kiddies, this link will give you the opportunity to watch his new video for "Thunder on the Mountain" and you could get a chance to win an autographed guitar by the man himself. One Love. Be grateful. Be kind.



http://www.slate.com/id/2155056?GT1=8900

[sway2sway]

hey ramble, i saw this and thought of you. have you ever heard it?
at amazon you could hear the first 30 seconds of the songs, but that isn't always so helpful, when it's just the intro music. looks interesting, i think

http://www.reggae-reviews.com/isitrollingbob.html

Is it Rolling Bob? A reggae tribute

Track Listing
1. The Times They Are a-Changin' -- Apple Gabriel
2. Maggie's Farm -- Toots Hibbert
3. Just Like a Woman -- Beres Hammond
4. Lay, Lady, Lay -- The Mighty Diamonds
5. Gotta Serve Somebody -- Nasio featuring Drummie Zeb/The Razor Posse
6. Knockin' on Heaven's Door -- Luciano
7. The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll -- Michael Rose
8. Subterranean Homesick Blues -- Sizzla
9. Mr. Tambourine Man -- Gregory Isaacs
10. Don't Think Twice, It's All Right -- J.C. Lodge
11. One Too Many Mornings -- Abijah
12. Blowin' in the Wind -- Don Carlos
13. A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall -- Billy Mystic
14. I and I -- Bob Dylan [Reggae Remix]

[ramble on rose]

Very awsome sway!! Thanks so much, I will be adding this to my christmas list most definatly!

[ragmop]

just wanted to share one of my favorite bobby z renditons of a classic. 1976. relatively decent quality video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXZM3pq045Q&eurl=

[ramble on rose]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17516429/

It has been a while since I have read anything on Dylan, but I found one. It is in reference to a show Dylan played for the previous pope and how the current one was opposed to it. Here is the first paragraph from it:

{VATICAN CITY - Pope Benedict XVI was opposed to Bob Dylan appearing at a youth event with the late Pope John Paul in 1997 because he considered the pop star the wrong kind of “prophet,” Benedict writes in a new book issued on Thursday.}

Is that not insane? The pope is takling trash about Bobby Z! Not cool pope, not cool. One Love.

[ragmop]

thanks, ramble. you are the booby z research meister. as for that story, it merely demonstrates how the-guy-puts-his-pants-on-one-leg-at-a-time human the pope. he is supposed to have some divine status according to church dogma* but statements like this show that he has human foibles, prejudices and hang ups just like the rest of us.

*dogma: one helluva jewel in the line of kevin smith jersey masterpieces. bow down and pay homage . . . snoogans

[ramble on rose]

Well rags I figure I am accomplishing two things here, one is spreading the Dylan love and two, This topic can always give us reason to strike up a conversation. True about the pope, just shows he is an imperfect human just like the rest of us. Oh, Yeah Kevin Smith Rocks!! One Love.

[ramble on rose]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18097483/


great article about Dylan and the possibilities of him winning a pulitzer. He is the man! One love.

[ramble on rose]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19208856/

Spain honors Bob Dylan with an arts award and recognizing him as a living legend in music. Finally the world is starting to see. Go Bobby Z.!!!! One Love.

[ragmop]

good find. well-deserved. long overdue. better late than never.

completely tangential: but it has always intrigued me how vanilla zimmerman's upbringing in BFE was--no tragedy, no exposure to the underbelly of society, etc. just plain, white bread minnesota:

http://www.music.indiana.edu/som/courses/rock/dylan.html

and yet look what that upbringing begot.

[ramble on rose]

I tell my husband I would never live in the mid-west middle of nowhere, but I would if I could live in Bobby Z.'s house. It does look a little too small town for me though, but that is were you find the real treasures. One love. Nice one rags.

[angischy]

Eddie Vedder sat in with Ben Harper & his band last nite, and they did a great cover of Dylan's Masters of War.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for the show to be uploaded. I'm sure this will be much in demand.

[ramble on rose]

That sounds so nice. I bet that was a great preformance. You cannot go wrong with Dylan's lyircs and Eddie's voice. mmmmm. One Love.

[Miss Shark]

Here's a little something I came across while checking out sites that had linked some of my lolla videos. Download Dylan/Cash sessions.

http://slyoyster.com/

[Miss Shark]

A background story

A little history about the source: These were bootlegged in the late 70s or early 80s in poor quality. In 1985 or 86, my friend, Chris D., worked in a video store in Nashville (I lived near there). I had helped him get some space shot videos from NBC, so to return the favor, he called one day and asked if I wanted a cassette of the Cash session. He got it from a guy who found it in his attic, in a box marked "BDJC". That guy's father worked for CBS Nashville in 1969 and made a 1 inch mono reel-to-reel copy of the original session tape. He made Chris a cassette from the 1 inch tape. Chris copied the cassette, and gave me the original. In the fall of 1986, I went to a Dylan collectors meet in Chicago, and we daisy-chained 15 cassette decks together. I was second in the chain, and everyone past me copied my tape. By then, I had added the second "One Too Many Mornings" and the three songs from a betamax tape of the JC TV show, so this CD is one generation down from my original cassette. The original bootleg CD came out about two months later. "Mornings" has a tone shift in the middle, from the video when they change from the studio footage to the control room footage, but I minimized this a bit with some EQ, which you can hear when it switches. I tried to balance the tones more than on the source video, but there is more echo on the control room footage. The CDs come from the tape that was copied in Chicago. Someday I will digitize the original cassette and make a better copy, but there probably won't be much improvement over this one. I do now have a much better source for the JC TV show video; the JC show from ABC on this tape has several glitches. "One Too Many Mornings" from the PBS Cash documentary is now available on a legitimate DVD.

[ramble on rose]

that is sweet. Miss Shark I did not know you where such a bobby Z fan. And you havea very interesting story to go along with a very interesting jam session. This looks so cool I will have to find this dvd now. One love.

[Miss Shark]

How could any music of all kinds lover not be a huge fan?

Glad you liked it!!!

[Miss Shark]

The movie is due out in November

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hL8bA5-lSo9NrZ4vMod70zBtIn2Q

[Miss Shark]

I've already read some oscar buzz for Cate's role in this movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyWgzUGOliw

[ramble on rose]

Miss Shark let me say how I am lovin that you are on top of the Dylan happenings. I am looking forward to this movie so so much. One love.

[angischy]

This sounds like a great show to catch. Wish they were coming to my town!
Amos Lee(from Philly) will be joining Bob Dylan and Elvis Costello on their fall tour.


Bob Dylan and his Band with Amos Lee

9.19 - Nashville, TN - Ryman Auditorium
9.20 - Nashville, TN - Ryman Auditorium

Bob Dylan and his Band with Elvis Costello (solo) & Amos
Lee

9.22 - Duluth, GA - The Arena at Gwinnett Center
9.23 - Clemson, SC - Clemson University Littlejohn Coliseum
9.25 - Norfolk, VA - ODU Constant Convocation Center
9.27 - Charlottesville, VA - U. of VA John Paul Jones Arena
9.28 - Columbia, MD - Merriweather Post Pavilion
9.29 - Kingston, RI - URI Ryan Center
9.30 - Bridgeport, CT - Arena at Harbor Yard
10.2 - Worcester, MA - DCU Center
10.4 - Portland, ME - Cumberland County Civic Center
10.5 - Manchester, NH - Verizon Wireless Arena
10.6 - Albany, NY - Times Union Center
10.8 - Syracuse, NY - War Memorial at Oncenter
10.9 - Rochester, NY - RIT Gordon Field House
10.11 - Pittsburgh, PA - Univ. of Ptts. Peterson Events Center
10.12 - Ypsilanti, MI - Eastern MI University Convocation Center
10.13 - Columbus, OH - Ohio State Univ. Schottenstein Center

Bob Dylan and his Band with Amos Lee

10.15 - Cincinnati, OH - Taft Theatre

Bob Dylan and his Band with Elvis Costello (solo) & Amos
Lee

10.16 - Dayton, OH - Wright State Univ. Nutter Center
10.17 - Louisville, KY - Freedom Hall
10.19 - Bloomington, IN - Indiana Univ. Assembly Hall
10.20 - Bloomington, IL - US Cellular Coliseum
10.22 - St. Louis, MO - Fox Theatre
10.24 - Iowa City, IA - Univ. of Iowa Carver-Hawkeye Arena
10.26 - Omaha, NE - Qwest Center
10.27 - Chicago, IL - Chicago Theater
10.28 - Chicago, IL - Chicago Theater
10.29 - Chicago, IL - Chicago Theater

Amos Lee scheduled to start at 7pm for all dates posted. Not a bad warm-up at all.

[ragmop]

he must like amos lee. he opened for bobby 2 years back in chicago.

[sway2sway]

I really like this video, maybe you've seen it before, makes my hangover feel better.
donovan does a song, then dylan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN6gqot02Zk&mode=related&search=

[ramble on rose]

I am diggin this video right now, what a great way to star the day, thanks sway. Looks like Norfolk is the closest Dylan will get to me, bummer. If it only gas were cheaper. One love.

[Miss Shark]

I hadn't seen it before, thanks. I'm such a huge fan of Donovan it's not even funny. I even suggested eons ago to one of my girl friends that she name her kid Donovan and she did.

Perhaps you've all heard this one already from Camerons CD, GLass covering Donovans Season of the Witch.

http://download.yousendit.com/97AD80A510C2CAD2

[Miss Shark]

Have you seen this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8R03fq3nEw&mode=related&search=

Great lyrics:

Shadows are falling and I've been here all day
It's too hot to sleep time is running away
Feel like my soul has turned into steel
I've still got the scars that the sun didn't heal
There's not even room enough to be anywhere
It's not dark yet, but it's getting there

Well my sense of humanity has gone down the drain
Behind every beautiful thing there's been some kind of pain
She wrote me a letter and she wrote it so kind
She put down in writing what was in her mind
I just don't see why I should even care
It's not dark yet, but it's getting there

Well, I've been to London and I've been to gay Paree
I've followed the river and I got to the sea
I've been down on the bottom of a world full of lies
I ain't looking for nothing in anyone's eyes
Sometimes my burden seems more than I can bear
It's not dark yet, but it's getting there

I was born here and I'll die here against my will
I know it looks like I'm moving, but I'm standing still
Every nerve in my body is so vacant and numb
I can't even remember what it was I came here to get away from
Don't even hear a murmur of a prayer
It's not dark yet, but it's getting there.

[sway2sway]

I hadn't seen it before, thanks. I'm such a huge fan of Donovan it's not even funny. I even suggested eons ago to one of my girl friends that she name her kid Donovan and she did.

Perhaps you've all heard this one already from Camerons CD, GLass covering Donovans Season of the Witch.

http://download.yousendit.com/97AD80A510C2CAD2


thanks shark, I hadn't heard that before. Donovan is a good name, I thought of that name for my boy, but didn't really want to risk others shortening it, and having that stick. Same reason I put elijah as his middle name, not so fond of eli.

[sway2sway]

I have seen that one with ginsberg and dylan. I can't get into ginsberg, I checked a book out once of his poetry and didn't read much of it, just didn't do much for me.
I'm not really a tombstone visitng kind of person, like as if it were a holiday excursion of who's who, but something about seeing Kerouac's name etched in stone is pleasing. I think it could be written by a finger in a still wet sidewalk or spray painted on the side of the building and the effect would be the same. An unexpected association to give pause to a day, if you get me.

[angischy]

I'm not really a tombstone visiting kind of person, like as if it were a holiday excursion of who's who, but something about seeing Kerouac's name etched in stone is pleasing. I think it could be written by a finger in a still wet sidewalk or spray painted on the side of the building and the effect would be the same. An unexpected association to give pause to a day, if you get me.

Arrr, in me many years, I ne’er seen such addled lassies as th' likes o’ ye, what should meet th' rope’s end! Shiver me timbers!
Aye, he be a auld sea dog but he be sleepin in Davey Jones' Locker, lass. Bless Him an' mind him!

[Miss Shark]

Pauses are a good thing. I know what you mean about visiting specific tombstones, however I really like old cemeteries. I think the coolest one I've seen as for location and beauty was in Old San Juan. This is not my picture, but you'll get the picture...pardon me for that.

http://kurtjohnson.net/blog/wp-content/plugins/rndimgdisplayer/randomimages/Old_San_Juan_Cemetery,_Puerto_Rico.jpg

[angischy]

It ain't like the phillyglove channel at all, but Bob's on YouTube now.


BobDylanTV (http://www.youtube.com/user/BobDylanTV)

[angischy]

Coming in October:

DYLAN, a career-spanning retrospective of the iconic artist's music, and the brand new DVD The Other Side of The Mirror, the first ever release of Bob Dylan at The Newport Folk Festival 1963-1965 featuring over 80 minutes of unreleased performances.

DYLAN will come in a 18-track Single Disc, a 51-track 3-CD set, and a 51-track Deluxe Limited Edition Boxset which comes housed in a red cloth covered box and featuring CDs designed to look like replica vinyls in their own sleevecases along with a 40 page expanded booklet and 10 limited edition postcard prints.

If you pre-Order any version of DYLAN together with the The Other Side of the Mirror DVD from his MySpace page, they'll ship both to arrive around 10/2 -- weeks before the DVD's 10/30 release date.

In addition you'll also get an immediate free download of Mark Ronson (http://myspace.com/markronson)'s remix of "Most Likely You Go Your Way (And I'll Go Mine)."

(you can read more about that here (http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/08/03/mark-ronson-speaks-the-full-story-behind-his-controversial-dylan-remix/))

You can pre-order The Other Side Of The Mirror & Dylan now @ the Sony Music Store.

Check out more Bob Dylan at www.dylan07.com (http://www.dylan07.com) and http://www.legacyrecordings.com/Bob-Dylan.aspx


If I may editorialize, I have to say the box sets probably don't have anything serious fans haven't already heard. More for collectors or newbies who want to an easy to digest collection of Dylan stuff. DVD sounds cool though.

Also, if the Mark Ronson remix makes you ill, here's Dylan in 1996 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivtJxRstSsE) performing that song live.

[angischy]

Oh, I can't believe I failed to post this earlier!

So everyone knows the classic vid for Subterranean Homesick Blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srgi2DkDbPU), right?

The (only) real cool thing about that new Dylan site I posted earlier is this special feature where you can send an e-greeting to a friend in the style of the video (you make the cards he throws).

Check it out: http://www.dylanmessaging.com/

[sway2sway]

man that message thing is fun, I"ve sent out a half dozen of em. thanks ang

[sway2sway]

Pauses are a good thing. I know what you mean about visiting specific tombstones, however I really like old cemeteries. I think the coolest one I've seen as for location and beauty was in Old San Juan. This is not my picture, but you'll get the picture...pardon me for that.

http://kurtjohnson.net/blog/wp-content/plugins/rndimgdisplayer/randomimages/Old_San_Juan_Cemetery,_Puerto_Rico.jpg

I missed this one before and damn is that gorgeous, that is a sweet spot. I was gonna say it seems a shame to waste it on some decomposed corpses, but I guess cemetaries are more for the living anyway.

[angischy]

So, I saw the movie Mona Lisa Smile a few years ago, and I remember that Tori Amos had a musical scene in it, but I didn't recall the song she performed until I heard it playing today at work.

It was Dylan's "You Belong To Me (http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/kQ4TFe6LBT4/)" done in kind of a light jazz/cabaret style (patience, the link took a minute).
I certainly recognized the song, but it took me a minute to place her voice.
Not sure I like it as a cover, but if you're interested, take a listen. :cool:

[sway2sway]

this movie looks so interesting, 7 characters embodying various aspects of Dylan's life.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/07/magazine/07Haynes.html?_r=1&ref=magazine&oref=slogin I only read the first page, I mean 8 pages, c'mon. but if one is enough to turn you on, then isn't that enough?

here's the movie trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZGseissqX8&mode=related&search=

[angischy]

this movie looks so interesting, 7 characters embodying various aspects of Dylan's life . . .


Funny you should bring this up right now Sway as I was logging on to post about this myself. I saw the trailer for this last nite when I went to see Into The Wild.
I hadn't heard of this film before and was completely aghast like "wait, what?!?" when I swore that I saw a woman dressed up as Bob.
Sure enough, it's Cate Blanchett (http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2006/08/31/thats-not-bob-dylan-thats-cate-blanchett-baby/) playing a young Bob? I mean, what?!?

I'm sure it'll be interesting and Ms Blanchett is a pretty good actress, but it sure took me by surprise.

[sway2sway]

one of the characters is a 13 year old black boy(or african american, or whatever it is now)[totally unrelated, but the only group of society that gets their moniker changed as many times as african americans is the special needs/developmentally challenged group, or so it seems to this honkyASSbitch]

oh you got to see that movie, into the wild? was it great? I'm psyched to see that now, though I'll probably just wait for dvd, I bet the closest it'll get to me is a 2 hour car ride.

[doubledown]

oh you got to see that movie, into the wild? was it great? I'm psyched to see that now, though I'll probably just wait for dvd, I bet the closest it'll get to me is a 2 hour car ride.

dont give the ending away cuz i dont wanna know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ragmop]

just picked up the book, "into the wild" last night. ending is given away on the back cover, but i am still completely intrigued and can't wait to read it.

[sway2sway]

this movie looks so interesting, 7 characters embodying various aspects of Dylan's life.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/07/magazine/07Haynes.html?_r=1&ref=magazine&oref=slogin I only read the first page, I mean 8 pages, c'mon. but if one is enough to turn you on, then isn't that enough?

here's the movie trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZGseissqX8&mode=related&search=

I'm Not There soundtrack
http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/7515315/a/I'm+Not+There.htm

here's a link to it, it's a 2 disc set with people covering his songs. you can hear a short clip of them. I clicked on sonic youth, didn't dig it. I clicked on Jack johnson, ooooh baby, that's the ticket. The coolest part is that besides the song he's doing (mama, you've been on my mind), THEN there is a backslash and it says a fraction of last thoughts on woody guthrie. I feakin love that thing and I am still working on a plan to have it painted out somewhere in my surroundings- or sharpied, or clawed with bloody digits and melted styrofoam cups, whatever the situation allows.
(This is when I bow to the god of itunes, cause I don't want 2 discs of that, just the JJ. oh yeah and I pray cause things aren't always as I imagine they should be)

[angischy]

So, Mister Brand New Avatar, are you going to see "I'm Not There"?

I was thinking about going to see it tonite, but then it started to pour rain, and I was in no mood for sloshing about on the way to the theatre.
A Sunday matinée, perhaps.

I'm all "don't tell me any details" :cool: until I see it myself. I want to form my own opinions, but a thumbs up or down never hurts.

And what of Into The Wild? Did you read the whole book, enjoy the movie, etc? I too was disappointed that the freaking COVER of the book gave away the ending! But I found the movie to be well done and a fair portrayal of the story and the young man's zeal for life.

[angischy]

Hey, did anyone see this flick this weekend? I might go to the matinée tomorrow. :p

[ragmop]

yes, i intend on seeing "I'm Not There", and soon hopefully.

as for into the wild, i loved it. a real page-turner. liked the author's style, and research into this young man's life.

it was unfortunate how just a few circumstances in the alaskan wild turned his otherwise uneventful adventure into tragedy.

how sad that a simple map would have saved this man's life.

i haven't seen the movie yet. how was it?

[Miss Shark]

Just cause this thread has popped up. It seemed much funnier when we posted it while medicated after Riot Fest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMsJNEQtwts

[Miss Shark]

This is on PBS right now.

http://www.wcny.org/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.garden_flypage/product_id,300/category_id,3/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,155/vmcchk,1/

[angischy]

yes, i intend on seeing "I'm Not There", and soon hopefully.

as for into the wild, i loved it. a real page-turner. liked the author's style, and research into this young man's life. . .
i haven't seen the movie yet. how was it?

"Into The Wild" was well done. Beautifully photographed, especially at certain points where they are really trying to demonstrate the love of life and nature and the experience that Alex was basking in.
Go see it!

As for "I'm Not There"...oh, I phucked that one up!
I must confess, I fell asleep.
It wasn't boring, but I felt like I didn't know enough of the Bob Dylan back-story to really understand some of what was going on.
I know his music but I haven't really even read a brief bio of the man and his life. I felt that would have helped me through the movie alot...like reading the Playbill while waiting for the opera to start. Yes, you can lose yourself in the art and the music and all these other things happening on stage or screen, but if you don't know the story, it all really just doesn't mean much at all. It didn't hold my interest...and Zzzzz

I couldn't believe it! And, I will try, again, to see this.

In my defense, I went early to buy tix for the late showing, then went next door and had a big fat glass of red wine from my favorite cutie Brazilian bartender, and was so mellowed out that I dozed off about 40 minutes into the film.

It was artfully done, at times, like a documentary, at other times, mere entertainment, but I didn't really "get" the story of it.
I felt like I needed a narrator to fill in the gaps of the parts I didn't understand. I was too tired, too mellowed out, and too lazy to think about it that much that nite. Bad on me.

Mad respect for Bob Dylan and his music, but I just didn't do the homework to really appreciate this movie that nite. (I didn't think that would be an issue).

I will go see it again...and definitely recommend it to serious Dylan fans.

[angischy]

This is ridiculous (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_pYYff7qP0)

[angischy]

I want to download ONE Dylan album right now, to suit my travelin, kinda lonely, overly reflective and analytical "sayin' goodbye" days this week. How depressing, huh?

Blood On The Tracks, or . . . ?

I want something that's not just a "greatest hits" sorta compilation.

[angischy]

Click here (http://www.bobdylan.com/#/downloadnow) . . . http://i33.tinypic.com/2jd5g14.jpg

[sway2sway]

thanks for the song, ang

[the duke]

so this thread is 21 pages, long and I'm not going back to all the pages just to see if this has been posted, so SORRY if there's a repeat, but I just got my amazon.com mailing list email and here's Bob's new book.....

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/ref=pe_35110_10919980_as_img_12/?ASIN=1416958088

[angischy]

In an interview (http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article6043331.ece) Bob Dylan talked about what “intrigued” him about Obama after reading “Dreams From My Father”:


He’s got an interesting background. He’s like a fictional character, but he’s real. First off, his mother was a Kansas girl. Never lived in Kansas though, but with deep roots. You know, like Kansas bloody Kansas. John Brown the insurrectionist. Jesse James and Quantrill. Bushwhackers, Guerillas. Wizard of Oz Kansas. I think Barack has Jefferson Davis back there in his ancestry someplace. And then his father. An African intellectual. Bantu, Masai, Griot type heritage - cattle raiders, lion killers. I mean it’s just so incongruous that these two people would meet and fall in love. You kind of get past that though. And then you’re into his story. Like an odyssey except in reverse.