Martin Luther King

[brijahn]

Here's something for you to read today. A great song by Donna The Buffalo for a great man.

Mr.King
Lyrics by: Tara Nevins , Jeb Puryear
Music by: Tara Nevins

CHORUS

We've got your dream Mr. King
It's in our hearts
We've got your dream Mr. King
And Ms. Rosa Parks
We've got your dream
Of peace, love and harmony
It's a vision of the way things have gotta be

Everybody stand up
Stand up for what you know is right
And we're gonna never
Never give up the fight
You can see how far we have come
There's still a mighty battle to be won
We've been marching out from the past
That lovely day when we're all free at last


Give it a listen here: http://www.funkyside.com/index.cfm/detail/Music/default/118 (http://www.funkyside.com/index.cfm/detail/Music/default/118.htm). htmEdited by: brijahn

[psilo-cowboy]

not to start a racial motivated fight- but i Just heard about this yesterday. all i could say is wow- i'm sure it's not All complete truth, but it caught me off guardnonetheless.


this was the biggest shocker----http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/hoa...uther+King+Hoax





Four things I'll bet you didn't know about Martin Luther King:

1. His name wasn't Martin Luther. It was Michael. It was decided Martin Luther had a more prominent ring to it, so he went by that. He never legally changed his name. To this day, he lived and died as Michael King.

2. While working on his dissertation for his doctoral degree at Boston University, he heavily plagiarized from another author who had done research on a subject similar to King's. An academic committee later found that over half of Kings work was plagiarized, yet would not revoke his doctorate degree. King was dead by this time, and the committee
ruled that revoking the title would serve no purpose. It was also discovered that King's famous I HAVE A DREAM speech was also not his own. He stole it from a sermon by Archibald Carey, a popular black preacher in the 1950's.

3. King was under FBI surveillance for several years (until he died)due to his ties with communist organizations throughout the country. King accepted money from the organizations to fund his movements. In return, King had to appoint communist leaders to run certain districts of his
SCLC (Southern Christian Leadership Conference), who then could project their communist ideas to larger audiences. A federal judge in the 60's ruled that the FBI files on King links to communism to remain top-secret until 2027. Senator Jesse Helms appealed to the Supreme Court in 1983 to
release the files, so the bill in the Senate to create the Martin Luther King Federal Holiday could be abolished. He was denied.

4. One of King's closest friends, Rev. Ralph Abernathy, wrote a book in 1989 in which he talked about King's obsession with white prostitutes. King would often use church donations to have drunken sex parties, where he would hire two to three white prostitutes, occasionally beating them brutally. The FBI agents who monitored King have also reported this. King was married with four children. Martin Luther King Day is a day on which this country comes to a screeching halt so we can have parades and memorials to honor this man, a man that most of the world views as a saint for his role in the civil rights movement:
No other public holiday in the United States honors a single
individual; Of all the great leaders in our Nation's history - none of them have their own holiday;

All of our great war heroes share Memorial Day;
All of our great presidents share President's Day.
Yet King-- a man who was a phony, a cheater, a traitor, and a sexual degenerate gets a day of his own.

I have a big problem with that. I'm not trying to take anything away from African Americans, but I am simply trying to point out that the vast majority of people are sorely mistaken about Michael King; and Reverse discrimination is blatantly obvious everywhere you look today.

Have you been watching the news lately? President Bush just got himself in some hot water when he spoke out against the University of Michigan for giving black applicants precedence over more qualified white applicants.
Now Jesse Jackson, the NAACP, and other black leaders are trashing him, without a doubt planning how they can use this. Think about that - Bush just made a stand for equal human rights, but lo and behold, in this case the blacks didn't want to be treated as equals.

Make up your own minds, but I feel like I belong to one of the more abused ethnic groups in this country today.
Can I do anything about it? Absolutely not. If I dare speak out I'll get labeled a racist, harassed by the media, subsequently lose my job, and never be able to show my face in public again.

But what I can do is send this e-mail to as many people I know in hopes that when you're watching the evening news on Martin Luther King Day, and you observe our politicians falling all over themselves to be filmed in a black church, you'll keep these above facts in mind.

[B-Love]

smileys/smiley6.gifWow...I am white...but that sh*t is wrong...is this hear say or fact...Cause if this is just hearsay you should not be posting this stuff anywhere...keep it to yourself..That link didnt work...not saying your wrong or I think these facts are bs..just want to know where u heard this...I mean think of how many white american heros that we celebrate today that were horrible people...racists..gamblers...soliciting prostitutes...as chuck D. said it motherf**k him and John Wayne..

[brijahn]

I got this email a long time ago, for the most part it is false, but there is some hint of truth. Check out snopes for the scoopes. http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/mlking.asp

I think this says it best, copied from http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/hoaxes/hoax5.asp?HName=Marti (http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/hoaxes/hoax5.asp?HName=Martin+Luther+King+Hoax) n+Luther+King+Hoax

"this email hoax is written in the same tone found on hate-driven Web sites. It resorts to name-calling, labeling King as a “phony, a cheater, a traitor, and a sexual degenerate.� It mutters in protest that the King holiday is the only US public holiday that celebrates a single individual, although federal law enforces both Washington’s Birthday and Columbus Day. It is an argument that is breaking at the seams and should simply be deleted upon receipt."
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[B-Love]

Thanks man...I thought something was up....that original post was a lil harsh...Thanks for the read on the second link...peace!

[psilo-cowboy]

f**k chuck d.. don't get me goin on some of those black race baiting
Bastards. you wanna bring hypocritical americans-- bring
it to more than the white race. go on with you're
white libby guilt, son. i posted it b/c YES- there
is truths in there that i'd never heard or have probably been presented
to most of yall.

[B-Love]

wow....you sound like a racist yourself man...you need a lil honor and harmony....calling it whitelibby guilt...where you from man? Wake up....Ok believe them truths...but you sound like an ignorant bastard yourself...SON!

[psilo-cowboy]

oh i sound racist? great chess move, ace.. right outta the left
wing playbook. insinuate i'm a racist,
pfft. did you read that 'harsh first
post'? i Did say it wasn't all
true... you sound guilty when you stand up and point
out 'the white american heroes' that were not good people. making
EXCUSES for no reason. i'm not the one who said we
shouldn't celebrate MLK day! what
'american heroes' are you talkin bout anyways?



i can believe you played that card already---i have no problems with ANY race! i love meeting all kinds...

just how many narrow minded rednekkk-hikkks do you know that're into g
love & special sauce, anyways? what- if i said i was
from alabama or mississippi- there'd be some automatic stereotype
set off in your head? is that not a racist insinuation on
your part?
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[B-Love]

My man...lets relax for a minute...Wasnt doing a chess move...and if you said you were from the south I wouldnt think anything...I lived in georgia...for 3 years...I was born and raised in ny...my thirst for culture expands across all horizons..maybe I read it wrong...But the way it was written..not saying you wrote sounded like racist propaganda...thats why I said it...like I said I wanted to know where it was from....and what does u being a redneck hikk and liking g love have to do anything with ur beliefs...Spread the love man...maybe I got to much of a hippies soul in me...I wouldnt sterotype you at all man...I am as down to earth and opened minded as anyone there..do you consider yourself narrowminded like stated above? Not looking for a fight man...was just looking for answers as to where this came from...smileys/smiley33.gif

[sassy]

liberation day on liberation day


who raised mlk from the dead


did anybody take the time


to pray with your friends


no matter how f**ked up or unclesucked


you may have been


liberaton day on liberation day


we lit up the doobie


we placed his hands on his secrets


and turned the lights on


liberation day

[B-Love]

Very interesting man...

[sassy]

woman


if you please

[SpecialJ]

i can see where both of you are coming from...there are a lot of race relations problems. Psilo-cowboy has a great point about reverse racism...IT HAPPENS, i don't care if that make me a racist in someones eyes (it shouldn't).Once again i implore of people to read up on the facts...there's racism on both sides of the road, and both kindssuck.How is it right to give people an advantage simply because of the color of their skin? it has never been right and never will be right. whether it's affirmative action or segregation (i'm not justtalking black and white) it needs to stop. Don't get on Psilo-cowboy, this is a forum, and this is the general discussion area....anything is fair game. He was obviously stunned by what he read and wanted to get other peoples reactions...that's all I think it is...i've never read anything from him that would lead me to believe he's a bad guy...race is stupid, it's all a matter of melanin counts, who cares? we all come from the same place an all go to the same place

[psilo-cowboy]

thanks for Gettin me special j, you nailed it.

[MC JMS]

.Edited by: MC JMS

[psilo-cowboy]

let me say it clearly, i Personally think MLK did Far more good for
society- than bad. i'm not "focused" on bad things he
did. those were Just all things i'd never heard
before, & thought it interesting enough to post on a MLK
thread. didn't realize i needed a disclaimer to
follow the text i cut & pasted.



btw, i'm not from the south-- unless KC, MO is now considered 'south'.

[sammydajew]

None of what psilo-Cowboy said should come as a surprise. Just look at MLK's right hand man- "Rev" Jessie Jackson.


He's being playing the race card forever. Shakingdown companies (blackmailing), and tax evasion. The rainbow push coalition is just a front for Jackson and his cohorts to exthort money from private citizens and companies.


FYI- After threating Bush Beer with a boycott, Jackson told them the only way to avoid it would be to give a one of theirs factories to Jackons brother (who is not a master brewer and had no experience at all in that line of work). Sorry to say they gave in.http://philadelphonic.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif things like this happen more often then not.


Now, no one says MLK must be perfect, he did do a lot of good (huge amounts). and thats why we celebrate his life.


-Da Jew


"You Know JESUS was a Jew"

[B-Love]

MC JMS-Thanks man..I hope we all do share that bottle some day soon..Psilo I am geniunly appologize for jumping on you at first...I just didnt know where it was coming from man..thats all...now I know and everythings out in the clear..and the reason I thought you were from the south is cause you posted something like what if I told you I was from alabama or something...So I hope you accept my appology and I hope for great discussions in the future from all of you...Peaceand unity...Damn I wish we had that bottle...


B

[SpecialJ]

haha yeah JMS you're right reverse racism doesn't make sense...i dunno i was just tryin to think of a term for racism going both ways and used that phrase haha but yeah i'm glad everyone is settled on this issue! someday we'll all share that bottle

[psilo-cowboy]

all is well & accepted... i'll try to keep it clean & above the belt.



sammy- nothin pisses me off more than race baiting
imbisils. jess 'HI-jackson' is the correct
term. honestly folks, i get quite irate when i read stories
of people caving in to pressure groups.
the ACLU is #1 on my sh*t list!!!
there's people of color & foreign nationality/descent i admire for being honest,
hard working, & fair; then there's some that have
abused their minority status to the point it make me wanna literally
puke.


Edited by: psilo-cowboy

[melodylee]

DAMN, DAMN, DAMN!!! I missed out on a good one! Just to put my 2 cents in... and you know I will.


Understanding that everything is settled in the "convo" I think the background that cowboy posted was very interesting. (by the way hi) Everyone has a few skeletons in their closet. When I first read that a few days ago, I knew it would hit a nerve with someone here, so I waited to see how it would pan out. But, you can't blame King, really, his whole life consisted ofhuge dedication to changing a horrible conflict... you have to have some "crutches" to get your self through conflicts. (Cowboy will argue me about crutches 'cause he doesn't have any!!!)I also agree with looking at the positive aspect of MLK life, which I think the majorityof society does, but it is interesting to hear the dark side of a driven leader. The forgery, shocks memore that the prostitutes. Considering the"IHad ADream" speech was supposedly a speech he had in fact 'dreamed'.


It's amazing how muchmore you learn whenout open your eyes... They never taught that in school!

[psilo-cowboy]

i got crutches.. just NOT cheatin on my gal, things detrimental to my
family, & so on. but OH, i got some crutches.

catch 22 i guess....everyone that criticizes someone else for whatever,
is gonna be criticized two fold by somebody else. what's the
quote?? 'every finger you point- there's two fingers pointed right back
at ya'?????????



i'm a good ole boy, but don't paint me to be 'that' good a boy!
Edited by: psilo-cowboy

[sammydajew]

Hey cowboy-


I guess it's like L7 said "YOUR ON MY sh*t LIST."


Don't even get me started on the ACLU. what else can you say but


NAMBLA & ACLU- should all be drug out to the street and SHOT then Pissed on thenSpit On.


"I Love the Smell of Napalm in the Morning"

[oracle97]

Is there a song about MLK that says:"


Martin , Martin what're you doing now.You're not alone...There's a sweet sound coming down on the night shift."


Does anyone know this song?





Thanks

[Valorie]

smileys/smiley6.gifDamn! I'm blown away with all the differences of opinions regarding MLK... Everone has his/her own opinion about MLK. After all, this is America - land of the free&thebrave. Freedomof speechcan sometimesoffend others and it can sometimes makeothers proud - luck of the draw. I'm not a racist, I try to get along with everyone. Hell, I don't evenknow what I am - I'm mixed with black, white, irish and Indian - go figure. But I try not to look at myself as a black, white, irish or indian woman, I try tolook atmyself as I'm every woman, living inthe greatest nation in the world. However, society doesn't let me liveas every woman becauseit labels meas being black, same as Martin Luther King whom I think was a great man with skeletons definitely in his closet - no one is perfect.It all boils down tothis people- we are all human beings& although we come in difference shapes, sizes and colors, we all come from the same - awomb, entering into this world with a slap on the ass, ouch! When we all leave this world, we all take the samelast breath! Whenwe take a sh*t, it "all" stinkssmileys/smiley6.gif the same (maybe some a little stronger than others)still, its all stinky sh*tand until someone specialcan sh*t perfume, hell we're all the same people whoshould quite franklybe filled with peace &love for one another and not so much hate. Sadly, that's not the case in America orany part of this world. It would really be nice ifwe could all agree to disagree or disagree to agree - that's what makes the world go round.We all have skeletons in our closets, Lord knows I show do, smileys/smiley2.gifhehehee,no one is perfect in this mean old world solets just drown ourselves in the good vibes of great musicians like G-Love & the SSS(Specially Special Sauce) 'cause music is good for the soul,helps you cope withthe problems of the world... if not but fora set or two of vibin' & survivin' with G and his crew. Peace out ya'll.


Brodeeva's Mom Val:)

[PERRY]

VERY WELL PUT VAL

[B-Love]

Like ur post Val

[Vanessa27]

Don't forget - that you, me, and every other white person in this country have at least a 500 yearhead start on freedom as oposed to African Americans. It wasn't even until the year 2000 that one could legally interacially marry in some states. What is all boils down to is that we are all Americans and in these times color should have no bearing. Many blacks died for our country and were never, or will never be recognized for it. Whatever MLK did, or didn't do, he was the face of civil rights and started a positive movement which ignited others to join. We should all be happy we don't live somewhere where you can get decapitated for your beliefs.

[Valorie]

Oh I hear ya Vanessa and I won't ever forget. Although color should have no bearing, it does have bearing. Don't forget, just like many blacks died forthis country, so did many whites, Indians, Mexicans, Italians - allraces havedied for this country and will never be recognized either - tit for tat. Yeah yeahwhites have a 500 year head start - luck of the draw, who knows??? MLK's movement set off a tremendousignition tohopefully one daycatchup to the starting line if you get my meaning. In the meantime, we've come a mightylong way -thanks to MLK &a lot of other people of color andguess what, white people included.Had it not been for some white people, it is my firm belief that we as African Americanssurely wouldn't be where we are today - drinkingfrom unlabeled water fountains, using unlabeled bathrooms, eating in public restuarants, obtaining blue & white collarpositions, dominating the sports world of football, baseball, basketball, tennis, golf, and as Chris Rock says, when white folks put some heat inice hockey rinks, we's gonna dominate that too, heheheee. So, for what it's worth, one day we'll get there -we might not get there together but we'll get to the mountain top and when we do, guess what?We shouldseeMartain Luther King, Jr. Now if you don't make it then that's on you 'cause I's plan to get there honey chile'. I speak like this because I know where I've been& whereI come from& I'm not a shame of my heritage& to hopefullyget a laugh out of you or put a smile on your face& anybody else reading this post. So loosen up and don't take this race thing to heart - weas Americanshave a lot more serious problems to think &worry about these days- people who are trying to kill all of us Americans and color don't matter to them- the Al caida Terrorist (Ithink I missspelled that word). On that note, I'm outa here. Peace be with you.


Brodeeva's Mom Val

[PERRY]

Well put again Val, except for the hockey part. There wont be much heat entering a hockey rink anytime soon. Maybe someday though. peace PERRY. AKA "GRETZKY #99"

[Vanessa27]

I agree Val. You're a smart cookie. I also agree that white people definitely palyed a significant part in gaining rights for African Americans, especially woman-because they were just as discriminated against. (Look up Viola Liuzzo.) Race is such a touchy subject because all people have had their own personal experiences which helped them in forming their opinions. I guess the best thing for all is toremember to knowyour history - and then you'll know where you're coming from! I think ifwe all (blacks and whites)learned African American history it would giveus a different perspective on how our country treated blacks throughout history. This is the time for all Americans to unite and show these terrorists that we are a powerful force to be reckoned with. What does it proove if we can't even get along amongst ourselves?! Listen to Garrett. Not a racist bone in his body. Free at Last.

[Valorie]

Perry Perry Perry, I'll have you to know you made me laugh so loud and so hard I literally knocked over my large glass of Coca Cola - soda and ice cubeswent flying every where, I jumped up, hit my knee, grabbed my keyboard before the soda creamed it and hit my damn toe on the edge of my computer desk - sh*t!!!! Hey, it was all worth it pal. I had the best laugh I've hadall day, hehehee. You're right, there will neverbeheat in the ice hockey rinks, hehe haha yukyukyuk - guess the brothas will have to go for what they already know, huh. But if by some small miracle it ever happens - watch out now!!!!


Vanessa, thanks for the compliment, I can use all the compliments I can get and then some. Maybe these terrorist will make - let me rephrase, hopefully these terrorist will bring all Americanscloser together as one peopletotallyblindless of race, creed& color- unitedwe stand-and run all their terrorist asses smooth out of the USA and keep them out of the USA!America has a hard task before us and our military is doing an excellent job. I'll be soglad when they bring our men and womenhome - too many lives have been lost! I hope you& Perry and anyone I know and don't knowhaven't lost any one over there. So far, my family hasn't and I'm praying we don't. We lost enough of our family in the Vietnam war. My dad fought in World War II and has medals of honor for his bravery. His war stories are chilling. Well, let me get off the computer and clean up the rest of this mess I made - thanks ah lot Perry! smileys/smiley17.gif


Brodeeva's Mom Val:)

[Abilities]

what sense is talking sh*t about somebody when they arent here to defend themselves (MLK). psilo-cowboy said: "f**k chuck d.. don't get me goin on some of those black race baiting Bastards."you don't know anything about black people, or anything about chuck d.shut upbefore ipunch your stupid ass.
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[PERRY]

Hear we go again, nice goin abilities. That is going to get some feedback for sure. You must like controvercy. You win again, weird, Its all in fun though, right. Us old farts need to chill. Peace PERRY.smileys/smiley29.gif

[Abilities]

why do i get hated on for defending something... that being my mom is black. thats some bullsh*t.

[Fox1]

Abilities


Maybe your not getting hated for defending something. Do you think it might be because of this statement?


"you don't know anything about black people, or anything about chuck d.shut upbefore ipunch your stupid ass."


Fox

[brijahn]

.Edited by: brijahn

[PERRY]

Thank you Fox1. Abilities- How are we supposed to know when your being serious about something or just being the peep we love to hate. Your always making rude comments about things or people or shows etc... I was not drilling you for sticking up for someone. I drilled you cause your rude,always rude. Is it starting to click yet that maybe peeps would like you if you used your head to speak instead of some other body part.

[Valorie]

I posted a response to Abilities earlier and for some reason it didn't post. I'm glad it didn't postbecause I misunderstood where Abilities was coming from at first. I overlookedthe quotation marks inAbilities sentence quotingcowboy'sstatement about bating black bastards. Cowboy, it appears you have a lot of hatred& anger forAfrican Americans. What a shame.People with your kind of attitude toward African Americansare the reason racism will always exist in America! You offend us by making such racial statements but yet it's okay for African Americans to protect your freedom of speech & your safety in this country by puttingtheir liveson the lineto die for you, your family, this country - right!African Americans have invented a lot ofthings in this country that you, your family -America, enjoys. I bet you're not even educated enough to know aboutall the things African Americans have contributed to this great country! I alsoknow it wouldn't matter one way or the other to youbecause your ignorance doesn't allow you to know or evencare - only to offend. Since you're so set on dragging a great man like MLK down& people of color, why don't you do something positive like join a branch of service& put your life on the line& risk dying for this country like African Americans have done instead of talking a lot of sh*t offending us. Why don't you go f**k up a terrorist and dragas manyof them down as you cancowboy because that's who you need to be offendingnot African Americans!African Americans make contributions to this country - not destruction. We're not trying to kill you - the Terrorist are so target your anger and hatred in that direction, it's not need her dude.


Brodeeva's Mom Val smileys/smiley5.gif

[Abilities]

yo, im not saying its difficult being black, or half black... im not trying to lay a guilt trip on either.im just saying thats some f**ked up sh*t that cowboy said, and i would punch you psilo if yousaid that type of "good ole boy" sh*t to my face... so would anybody else who has black roots, or whoever stands up for what they believe in. dont knock on something you dont know anything about... cowboy you touched on something you wouldnt want to touch on in person, for real.i know you dont like me perry,i dont like you either... but i will gladly squash beef with you... gladly.i pretty much like you all, BoPicasso, Undercoverlover, Greengirlie, Floatis that dude, what up dawg. yo Mr. C, i didnt mean to f**k your post up the other day man. i apologize if I pissed anyone off... honestly. psilo's a hater, if you sit on sh*t your ass gets infected... no love. no chicks for you either i bet.

[Valorie]

But it is difficult being black and/or half black in America Abilities, we just have to learn to cope with it. Sometimes I can cope and sometimes I can't but I try not to let it get me down. I'm disturbed that cowboy has so much anger and hate for black people so I'd like to make a suggestion to cowboy. I'd like to invite you to surf over to my son's website www.ventanamusic.com (http://www.ventanamusic.com) click on the Listen to Music section and then click on the song titled "Lost in your Eyes" and listen to the words of that song - I'm serious man because it sounds like you need to get layed with a beautiful woman with a beautiful song playing in the background to hopefully take away some of that hate & anger you have for us. Then I want you to listen to the other song "Day by Day" and listen real close to the words - that's how most white people - not all white people,makeAfrican Americansfeel - you want us to fail in life but we take it day by day and go on with our lives. If that doesn't help your attitude, then I suggest you listen to Ben Harper some more and G-Love too because they sing about the injustices we suffer too, especially G. Why don't you listen to "200 Years" by G-Love, that song sums it up in a nutshell. If you don't have a copy of "200 Years" - it's on G's "Yeah, it's That easy" CD, I'll send you a copy of the song or the whole CD if you wish. I really hate to see such anger and hatred because it makes me act unlady like when I'm provoked by offensive, racist language. Peace out.


Brodeeva's Mom Val......

[Valorie]

Oh my, no responses from anyone... This is a very touchy subject& I personally didn't mean to make anyone uncomfortable by not responding, if I did, I apologize - that goes for you too cowboy. The only reason I asked you to check my son's website out& listen to those songs I suggestedis because music reallyis good forthe soul& I thought hearing a song or two by an "X G-Love" member would soften your heart some. Yeah, my son Chadused to be a part of G-Love's band. He toured the east& west coast with them back in the day& he's one of the lead vocals ona couple of G-Love's CD releases, "Philadelphonic" and "Oh Yeah It's That Easy". My son is alsoone of the lead vocals on thepopular "Milk & Cereal" song - they made the song up one morning - acting a fool and cuttin' upon the G-Love bus, hehee. My son&his best friend Earl were known as Brodeeva & they were very close to G, Houseman & Jimmy Jazz. That's why I use the name "Brodeeva's Mom"& a lot of people know me from the Old G-Love message board. Man, I made so many friends, I couldn't keep up with all of themcowboy - Ieven see a few fans from the old message board on this board - the new & improved &sometimes confusing board, hahahaa, but I'm getting used to it. So now that the cat is out of the bag - with that info exposed, I wouldhope you go ahead & check out my son Chad'swebsite www.ventanamusic.com (http://www.ventanamusic.com)and listen to some one who used to sing with G-Love & Special Sauce - music of an African American who learned a helluva lot from GLASS. Iwas hoping his music wouldput a smile on your face& get rid of some of thathostility youpossess against black people - MLK in particular. Hey, we're all in it together so we may as well try to get along - so can we? I'm willing to forgive& forget& move forward - how bout you, Abilities &Perry.Peace???? Please???


Brodeeva's Mom, Val smileys/smiley2.gif

[PERRY]

The beef has been squashed. This was a very touchy topic on the board when it started back in like feb. I think. Everybody and I mean everybody has difff. beliefs on this topic especially when it comes to racial issues. That is what makes us all different and that is what makes the earth rotate. Lets just try and end this one on a positive vibe. I know I will for sure. Peace to all and I mean all. PERRY.

[B-Love]

Come on y'all just beating a dead horse at this point...we all have different beliefs, obviously if u read all the posts on this thread u would see that I was one of the original people to get offended by the comments, just because talk like this only causes drama and beef, I try to keep politics and racial issues to a minimal on a music board...its good to talk about these kinds of things but sometimes can lead to tension...love urself, love ur neighbor man...and like my best man at my wedding says...Peace to all, and I mean all!

[Abilities]

shuuut up B. Edited by: Abilities

[Valorie]

smileys/smiley6.gifDamn B-Love! Just when I was about to say one down and two to go - Cowboy - Abilities,Peace??? Please??? Well all I can say at this point is this. All this tension amongstour races always comes to a squash when tragedy hits home in Americabecause there is no question in my mindwhen push come to shove we always come together as Americans -one race ofpeoplewhen tragedy hits home - we see no color, if not but for a minute, a day, a week or a monthin times of crisis - tornados, floods, earthquakes, bombings and war.Well, maybe I'm pushing the time frame a littlesmileys/smiley6.gifbut you know what, I don't know about you but I'll take that momentanytime becauseit means for a moment, no oneis judginganyone becauseit doesn't matter. Soweneed to keepbeating that "dead horse" until it wakes up. I know, I knowit's not possible but it sure didn't hurt to wish it were possible, hell I'd be the first one in lineto beat some life back into it. And the verdict of this sensitive topic is we disagree to disagree.Guess I'll godrown my failed attempts to make peace in some good ole music -G-Love & Special Sauce sounds real good right about now to cheer up my spirits. Can't wait for his new release coming out on August 24th, so don't ya'll forget to go out and buy it, I've already got my money set aside, hehehe. Nothin' but luv for ya Abilities, B-Love &Cowboy. Perry, you are alright in my books pal. Thanks for the squash, it'sreally needed here. Moving on.........


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[Monica*]

way to keep the peace Val! smileys/smiley2.gif

[Valorie]

Thanks Monica - I felt I had tosay something positiveto keep the peace and it looks like it worked. Wow, it's so nice when we're not feuding with each other. Nothing beats a peaceful race of people -nothing, ya feel me......


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[B-Love]

shuuut up B.





dude...you better check urself...what are 16? grow up man..I got nothin but love for you, and everyone...why dont you just stop the nonsense...

[B-Love]

smileys/smiley6.gifDamn B-Love! Just when I was about to say one down and two to go - Cowboy - Abilities,Peace??? Please??? Well all I can say at this point is this. All this tension amongstour races always comes to a squash when tragedy hits home in Americabecause there is no question in my mindwhen push come to shove we always come together as Americans -one race ofpeoplewhen tragedy hits home - we see no color, if not but for a minute, a day, a week or a monthin times of crisis - tornados, floods, earthquakes, bombings and war.Well, maybe I'm pushing the time frame a littlesmileys/smiley6.gifbut you know what, I don't know about you but I'll take that momentanytime becauseit means for a moment, no oneis judginganyone becauseit doesn't matter. Soweneed to keepbeating that "dead horse" until it wakes up. I know, I knowit's not possible but it sure didn't hurt to wish it were possible, hell I'd be the first one in lineto beat some life back into it. And the verdict of this sensitive topic is we disagree to disagree.Guess I'll godrown my failed attempts to make peace in some good ole music -G-Love & Special Sauce sounds real good right about now to cheer up my spirits. Can't wait for his new release coming out on August 24th, so don't ya'll forget to go out and buy it, I've already got my money set aside, hehehe. Nothin' but luv for ya Abilities, B-Love &Cowboy. Perry, you are alright in my books pal. Thanks for the squash, it'sreally needed here. Moving on.........


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Val- I think you've mistaken me...I am all for it...I believe what you believe...Its just I know on message boards sometimes people just dont get it...they dont understand...so they act immature, and post really stupid replies...I am with u val, and like I said I got nothin but love for everyone...and I mean everyone..smileys/smiley1.gif

[Valorie]

I'm sorry B-Love, didn't mean to get the wrong impression of you. You are alright in my books too - just like Perry, hahahaa. I think Abilities' strategy is to rattle the cage on this boardto keep the conversations "heated & very interesting" and I think he does it all in good fun. He's doing a good job of making the fans excitedbecause we can't wait tolog on and see whats being said next - especially by him, you, Perry and we haven't heard much fromcowboy. Anyways,Abilities' strategy is working....he's got my attention, heheheeand it's all in good fun. If I'm wrong, I stand corrected. Much luv for every one. Take care B-Love & you guys try to stay outa trouble okay - especially you Abilities, ya feel me pal smileys/smiley3.gif


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[Abilities]

"1-2-3 the name is called Abilities/ and if you wanna goto the tip top/ stop the violence and give props/ WHYO". that might be funny if any one ever listened to Boogie Down Productions' "Stop The Violence",or Black Star's "RE: Definition". I was just kidding B.

[Valorie]

...and you were just kidding on the Mr. C's Bonnaroo Review too, huh Abilities, hehehehe -you guys are so funny with allthe pictures you postedunder that topic. I find myself laughing out loudevery time I think about yall's comments and the pictures. Now that's what I call good old fun - plus, nobody can get "physically" hit if he or she doesn't feel its fun"thank God". I must say Abilities, B-Love, Perry, Mr. Cleanface, Brijahn, BoPacisso - you guys are the life of this board, literally - not a dull moment and I look forward to logging on to see what you guys are up to next.Laughter is good for the soul and my soul is feeling good rightnow. Peace out everybody.


Brodeeva's Mom Val:)

[B-Love]

...and you were just kidding on the Mr. C's Bonnaroo Review too, huh Abilities, hehehehe -you guys are so funny with allthe pictures you postedunder that topic. I find myself laughing out loudevery time I think about yall's comments and the pictures. Now that's what I call good old fun - plus, nobody can get "physically" hit if he or she doesn't feel its fun"thank God". I must say Abilities, B-Love, Perry, Mr. Cleanface, Brijahn, BoPacisso - you guys are the life of this board, literally - not a dull moment and I look forward to logging on to see what you guys are up to next.Laughter is good for the soul and my soul is feeling good rightnow. Peace out everybody.


Brodeeva's Mom Val:)





well thanks Val!

[Valorie]

You're welcome B-Love - anytime. Take care pal.


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[Mr. Cleanface]

Hey Valorie....you may become the unofficial "Den Mother" of the forum!!! Anyway.....love ya......and.....


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[Valorie]

smileys/smiley3.gifOh my goodness, you are so kind, thank you so much for the compliment. You're alright in my books too Mr.Cleanface, hehhehee. When I saw the flower, I had a flashback of the pictures you guys posted on the Bonnaroo reviewand then I quickly realized - its a flower, it's a flower- and a lovely flower at that, hehe haha yukyukyuk.Thanks for putting a big smile on my face Mr. C. Hey,I don't mean to offend anyone on this board. It's nothing wrong with expressing your feelings, if anyone's feelings get hurt, its always nice to be able to apologize- thats what makes the world go round too. You guys are so much fun to listen&talk to. Take care, be good and stay outa trouble pal.


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[karakoren]

Hey Valorie....I logged in to your son's website and checked out his music....I really liked what I heard!

[Valorie]

Well thanks Kara, that was nice of you to do. I'll pass the word on to Ventana that you like their music -unless you left a message on their message board that you're diggin' their vibes too, hahahaa. I know G-Love& Special Sauce isgoing to be inCalifornia in August, I think the 24th, so I hope G gives my son & Earla call sincetheyuse to perform with them back in the day. I'm sure Chad & Earl would love to hear fromGLASS when they hit California. They can still be reached through theirformer manager Mr. Bryant, who by the way is the manager for Smokey Robinson.The number is still the same G so if you see this post, give the boys a call - they'd love it. Again, thanks Kara for checking out their website. I like their music too 'cause I'm their #1 Fan, hehehee. Hey, have a safe Fourth of July Kara - & everyone else too.


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[DanToo Dee]

What are races? Trying to get somewhere first?


Is black a colour? No. Then why are some groups called coloured?


Ignorance or dissapointement are the two biggest causes for hatred... Those who are ignorant could be educated, but those who are dissapointed are the tough cookies..


I myself usually don't see differences between people, except the individual differences..





Also:


Discussions regarding heated/touchy subjects on a message board NEVER turn out right.. You don't know who you are talking to... I have to say this went fairly peaceful if you compare it to other boards I visit...






Cheers all,
-DanToo Dee!

[Valorie]

Dan Too, I couldn't agree with you more. This topic went fairly well and ended in disagreement - oh well, it was to be expected. Discussions on touchy topics never goes well, especially when you don't know the person whom you are communicating with. But that'sthe chance youtake when you jump in and get your feet wet. Sometimes you make friends and sometimes you don't. I made a lot of friends on the old message board and I made some enemies too.I try not to think about them but they all know who they are and what they said and did to me back in the day. I'm a big girl and I can take constructive criticism and I know how to lick my wounds and go on. So I jump on the new board and already I've met much controversy and I was only trying to make new friends. I think I'm going to take my old G-Lovefriend's advice and keep silent like he doeswhen it comes to "touchy topics" on this board because you really don't know who you're dealing with and their words can cut deep - but so can mine. I don't like getting in to it with people, but when provoked, I will.Here lately, I find myself getting in to itwith people - depending on whether I'm having a bad day, a senior moment or something is bothering me - and that's not good. Much luv for everyone anyways. So, on that note, I'm signing off.............


Val