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sway2sway
10-02-2006, 04:49 PM
I was watching the passionate eye last night and it was about the money that the US was entrusted with, which belonged to Iraq and was to be used for reconstruction and redevelopment. This money was mostly from the sale of oil in Iraq during the US occupation, as well as seized bank accounts. One official on there said that it was more important as to the speed in which the money was spent, not on the actual project. From one of the biggest US companies, Custer Battles, it's estimated that for 3 billion of actual projects, 10 billion was spent. One senior person told that he was given 7 million dollars and told he had a week to spend it. There was some other company that was billing for 2000 employees and when they actually dug in to find how many were on the payroll, they could only find 600. The stories just went on and on like that.

In the last week before the handover of control and the money to the new Iraq government there was something like 5 billion spent. On the actual day of the handover, the US had only 3 1/2 million to give Iraq. The money had been squandered and Iraq still was not functioning anywhere near it's previous levels.
They said Iraq used to be the leader in Middle East health care, other countries would look at them and model themselves after them. Now they don't have needles, oxygen masks, medication. They showed one baby that looked premature, they were having to hold oxygen tubing up to it's nose because they had no masks. The baby needed vitamin K (used in the blood clotting process). The hospital had none, so they told the dad to go into the town and try and buy some off the black market. When he returned the baby had died. The doctor said it was entirely preventable.
Iraq was not a third world country before all this started. One government guy said (basically) that this is to be expected, redevelopment is not an easy road, we learn from it each time and each case is different (blah fucking blah)
AND that it should just be considered water under the bridge. Are you for real? Do you think the US would call it water under the bridge if some country wasted close to 20 billion dollars and left the people without adequate food, shelter, healthcare and infrastructure.

It's shameful.

http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeyesunday/feature_011006.html

http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?menu=c10400&no=280803&rel_no=1

tinkerlion
10-02-2006, 05:33 PM
when i get home (at around 10) i'm gonna try to find an article i was reading last week that was talking about the horrible condition either the military or police trainees where housed in. it was extremly unsanitary, there was even an instance of a sewer pipe bursting. shit every where. i'll see if i can't find it.

sway2sway
10-03-2006, 02:05 AM
At the same time, the IAMB discovered that Iraqi oil exports were unmetered. Neither the Iraqi State Oil Marketing Organisation nor the American authorities could give a satisfactory explanation for this. "The only reason you wouldn't monitor them is if you don't want anyone else to know how much is going through," one petroleum executive told me.

Officially, Iraq exported $10bn worth of oil in the first year of the American occupation. Christian Aid has estimated that up to $4bn more may have been exported and is unaccounted for. If so, this would have created an off-the-books fund that both the Americans and their Iraqi allies could use with impunity to cover expenditures they would rather keep secret - among them the occupation costs, which were rising far beyond what the Bush administration could comfortably admit to Congress and the international community.

In the absence of any meaningful accountability, Iraqis have no way of knowing how much of the nation's wealth is being used for reconstruction and how much is being handed out to ministers' and civil servants' friends and families or funnelled into secret overseas bank accounts. Given that many Ba'athists are now back in government, some of that money may even be financing the insurgents.

Both Saddam and the US profited handsomely during his reign. He controlled Iraq's wealth while most of Iraq's oil went to Californian refineries to provide cheap petrol for American voters. US corporations, like those who enjoyed Saddam's favour, grew rich. Today, the system is much the same: the oil goes to California, and the new Iraqi government spends the national wealth with impunity.

(taken from this article)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1522983,00.html

sway2sway
10-03-2006, 04:11 PM
are you guys all in on it, or what? Did every american citizen get cut a secret cheque?

ragmop
10-03-2006, 05:19 PM
please do NOT get me started sway. if you know anything about rags, you know that i have an opinion about everything political.

unfortunately the past 6 years has been a tough lesson in nailing jello to a tree. one party controls the executive, and legisalative branches. this 2/3 of our government has proven time and time again that it will exercise no restraint (executive) and no oversight (congress). this has bread abuses in both branches. everything has been done to obtain and maintain political power, and to further the goals of the republican party. thankfully the judicial branch has had the guts to correctly interpret the law and constitutionally check some abuses of the executive branch. how long that court will continue in this role is uncertain.

in any event, unless and until the republican congress decides to actually utilize its subpoena power and call for investigations or hearings on some of this corruption, nothing will happen. it is for this reason that it is critical for the democrats to at least obtain control of the House in November. at that point, they would have their first opportunity in 6 years to exercise subpoena power and call for some investigations and hearings.

oh i recognize the dems have plenty of problems, but my god ppl, how much more abuse are you willing to stand by and watch right before your eyes? we need something to stop this train wreck.

peace . . .

sway2sway
10-03-2006, 05:28 PM
hallelujah Rags! that's what I was waiting for....It's like people don't even care, can't see the humanity suffering through the political anger and fear.
For all the corrupt evil people, there are many many more over there that are just regular people trying to live and take care of their families, just like you and me.

ragmop
10-03-2006, 06:24 PM
when it comes to our handling of the reconstruction effort in iraq, i must admit i am ashamed to be an america.