Who matches you on the issues?

[Miss Shark]

This is a little quiz on how you feel on the issues, and it should match with the candidate that most closely fits your views.

http://www.wqad.com/Global/link.asp?L=259460

Mine results came up with Dennis Kucinich http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/RebeccaLB/space.gif (talk about beam me up scotty Rags) and Chris Dodd in second.

[angischy]

Aren't there any other candidates to pick from? I really don't like any of them!

I can't be the only one feeling this way.

[Mr. Cleanface]

Rudy

:D

If you matched Kucinich, you are a nutjob. No offense Miss S. :)

[ragmop]

I am in good company, Miss Shark. Dennis all the way, followed by Chris, then Hillary.

Be it Kucinich, Dodd, Edwards, or Clinton, you'd better get used to a blue america Mr. C.

[Mr. Cleanface]

you'd better get used to a blue america Mr. C.
So 10 states out of 50 will equal a 'blue America?'

Interesting.

[Miss Shark]

I am in good company, Miss Shark. Dennis all the way, followed by Chris, then Hillary.

Be it Kucinich, Dodd, Edwards, or Clinton, you'd better get used to a blue america Mr. C.

That's exactly what I was thinking Rags!

Yes Mr. C, I'd say I match his stance on the issue (http://www.dennis4president.com/go/issues/) pretty well. Not to say that I'm not a nut job anyhoo, even though I've never seen a UFO.

[ragmop]

mr. c,

gaze into the sad republican future:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/103007D.shtml

some juicy tidbits:

in 2004 the under 30 vote had kerry 372 bush 166

in 2004, the hispanic vote for congress was 69% dem, 30% repub, and the hispanic population is the fastest growing population.

[Mr. Cleanface]

some juicy tidbits:


in 2004 the under 30 vote had kerry 372 bush 166

in 2004, the hispanic vote for congress was 69% dem, 30% repub, and the hispanic population is the fastest growing population.

So with this post you are saying that teenagers, dumbf#*k college kids, twenty-somethings, and Hispanics (many of which were not born here), vote Democrat???

Is that something to be proud of?

[ragmop]

mr. c: wow. now you're even insulting the youth.

question: did you have such low self-esteem when you were a teenager, dumbf*ck college student? or was it just the brown people that you chose to look down upon back then? or are you simply the exception? that is, your rugged independence and self-reliance allowed you to rise above the rabble and "succeed"? and all the other teenage, dumb-fu*k college student just remained stagnant and worthy of your disdain. nice.

here's the point (god, i feel like i am talking to a teenage, dumb-fu*k college student here!): historically, every new generation is more progressive and tolerant than its predecessor. in the last 50 years we have seen a dramatic shift in the attitudes pertaining to the rights of women, minorities and homosexuality, as well as voting and privacy rights (despite the recent assault by this administration). we donkeys tend to fight for and protect these rights.

and on the money issues, there is now an ever-widening economic gap between the haves and have-nots. unfortunately for you, there are far, far more have-nots demographically. the party that addresses the worries and concerns of the have-nots stand to gain, not lose, voters (unless, of course, you rig the electronic voting machines, or choose to cage voters).

[the duke]

sorry, this post has nothing to do with the point, but I had to laugh at your description of hispanics as brown people rags...hehehe. I think that must make me cream, 1/2 asian, 1/2 white :)

[ragmop]

sorry, this post has nothing to do with the point, but I had to laugh at your description of hispanics as brown people rags...hehehe. I think that must make me cream, 1/2 asian, 1/2 white :)

hehe. i do not use it as derogatorily. just like to thrust before the righties the inescapable truth about their platform and policies. disect their stances on immigration reform, national security, voting rights, education or other federal assistance programs. they all share a common demoninator: people-of-color disproportionately bear the brunt of the right's agenda (most ludicrous is their Every Child Left Behind program). sad but true.

in case you're interested in helpin' the cause:

http://www.colorofchange.org/

[the duke]

OK, so I probly should've started a new thread, but couldn't be bothered...

As I type our federal election is going on...we've had John Howard screwing up our country for the last 11 years, and while it's extremely early days, it seems as though he's finally being defeated...YAY!!! :D

I'm very nervous though....will keep everyone updated

[the duke]

and it was Labour and Kevin Rudd (kevin 07 was his catch line) by a mile...and our Prime Minister may have possibly lost his own parlimentarian seat...lovely :)

[ragmop]

i was please to see howard lost. i hate that fecker.

i heard that rudd and the LP ran on a platform to change the country's policies on global warming, among other things. good start. congrats, duke!

[the duke]

they're going to do a whole new thing...putting more money into public education and getting rid of the bullshit 'work choices' laws that they put in. Here's hoping he keeps his promises. But I'll admit, it's good for a change of leadership...Howard was a pussy puppet who only gave a shit about making the rich richer and the poor poorer. We'll see what happens...

[Mr. Cleanface]

mr. c: wow. now you're even insulting the youth.

question: did you have such low self-esteem when you were a teenager, dumbf*ck college student? or was it just the brown people that you chose to look down upon back then? or are you simply the exception? that is, your rugged independence and self-reliance allowed you to rise above the rabble and "succeed"? and all the other teenage, dumb-fu*k college student just remained stagnant and worthy of your disdain. nice.
I forgot all about this thread. Ok...

First point. No, I just know I was more interested in partying and wizard sleeve in college than real issues as I wasn't really part of the workforce, paying my own way, and didn't have a family or career. I don't think I was any different than most kids in school at the time, or the kids in school now. I also think a lot of kids in college aren't really informed on the issues, and are easily persuaded to vote certain ways based on what is 'cool' at the time in their world. If you're going to vote a certain way because Eddie Vedder or Puff Daddy told you too, I don't want or respect your vote. I refer to these people as 'joiners.' I am not saying that there are not informed college kids FYI, just a lot that don't pay attention.

Second point. I never said anything derogatory about the Hispanic vote other than that a lot of them weren't born here, which is true. If you think it's cool that people that weren't born here and may have come here illegally share your view on politics and the direction the country should be going, good! I hope that works out for you. Also, you used the term 'Brown people,' not me.

Question; Will you be happy if Hillary wins the nomination? Serious question, just wondering your opinion.

[sauce.baby]

I refer to these people as 'joiners.' I am not saying that there are not informed college kids FYI, just a lot that don't pay attention.
'Sheeple's a better term ;)

[ragmop]

Question; Will you be happy if Hillary wins the nomination? Serious question, just wondering your opinion.

not at all. she's a corporatist like most of the candidates, and i doubt she will do anything to reverse the erosion of the middle class' economic rights.

that being said, i will vote for whichever Democratic candidate gets the nomination. the Republican candidates are truly breathtaking in the moral bankruptcy. Mitt and Rudy are running 180 degrees away from their entire political record and somehow believe that the entire nation will be too stupid or lazy to notice.

This time around, let's go with qualifications rather than "likability".

(and sorry about the tongue-lashing there, joe. you cetainly didn't deserve it. my apologies.)

[Mr. Cleanface]

No worries brah, I dish it out, I can take it.

I am really uncertain where I stand on a lot of issues and candidates. The past few years have been so crazy, my foundation has been shaken.

Rudy is starting to rub me the wrong way for some reason, the rest of the Repubs are uninspiring, I don't get 'that' feeling from anyone. Guess we'll see what pans out over the next several months, but right now I am all discombobulated.

:confused: :(

[angischy]

I also think a lot of kids in college aren't really informed on the issues, and are easily persuaded to vote certain ways based on what is 'cool' at the time in their world. If you're going to vote a certain way because Eddie Vedder or Puff Daddy told you too, I don't want or respect your vote. I refer to these people as 'joiners.' I am not saying that there are not informed college kids FYI, just a lot that don't pay attention.


What about the idea that many college kids (and dare I say others, too?) get their politics from their comedy? i.e. The Daily Show and the Colbert Report
I don't even have cable, so I'm not really qualified to comment on this in depth, but I did see Stephen Colbert on Meet The Press the other day discussing his own mock campaign (i think it's a parody, at least) to seek a nomination for President.

That's all funny and whatnot I suppose, but our country and our gov't is so fuct up right now, we have to be serious with our politics and our elections.
I wonder how many college kids, if given the choice, would really vote for him? I mean, it's like penciling in Mickey Mouse on the ballot, it's really just throwing away your vote.
Anyone have a comment on that one?

[tinkerlion]

the stephen colbert thing didn't go too far before the show was off the air for the strike. i think the last was him not getting on the ballot in south carolina. i highly enjoy the colbert report, but am terrified when i think of all the people watching out there who might not be able to understand that it's an act. while the daily show has a lot of the comedy element as well, the interviews are generally very good. they have a wide range of guests with a large variety of opinions. john stewart is great at debating with his guests as well. of course there is the issue that you can't make people think.

[angischy]

I don't watch CNN or anything like that, so I'm sure this (http://www.ppawi.org/elections/mccain.aspx)is old news, right?

"I think it comes back to that moderate maverick image that he's tried to portray," Keenan says. "But when you peel the onion back, the record shows that this is a guy who's been very anti-choice since he entered the U.S. House of Representatives back in 1983."

The misperception is interesting, considering that McCain has not attempted to keep his pro-life views a secret. Here's how he put it on an appearance last year on NBC's Meet the Press:

"I have stated time after time after time that Roe v Wade was a bad decision, that I support a woman — the rights of the unborn — that I have fought for human rights and human dignity throughout my entire political career," McCain said. "To me, it's an issue of human rights and human dignity."